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Title: elemi oil
Post by: JRL on June 24, 2010, 02:13:01 PM
This oil contains a compound almost identical with mescaline, and it's cheap and legal.
Anyone have any experience or data on it?
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: JRL on June 24, 2010, 02:15:26 PM
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Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: JRL on June 24, 2010, 02:30:04 PM
Pikal says it's the same as TMA
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: dendro on June 28, 2010, 04:13:00 AM
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Post by: dendro on July 21, 2010, 05:27:43 AM
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Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: LizJah on August 10, 2010, 10:26:21 PM
Elimicine has long been a subject of speculation.

As I have read, it is very hard to work with...and as I believe...it falls into the same catagory as piperanol. (As in it's workability, not it's ends.)


(Do your research before coming to a conclusion about the similar sounding "piperazines.")
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: meme on September 25, 2010, 05:04:02 AM
Please bioassay!  Really, this could be brilliant.
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: i<3Shrooms on September 25, 2010, 03:46:30 PM
Wow! It just so happens I recently ordered 30ml of Elemi Oil...I plan on testing out its flavorful aroma. I will keep you all posted!

 :smoke1
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: jokergrin on January 24, 2011, 02:06:11 PM
Any follow-up?
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: jokergrin on March 19, 2011, 12:49:39 AM
Quote from: "jokergrin"Any follow-up?
And this looks to be non-nitrogenous.  not unlike salvinorin-a.  interesting.
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: senorsalvia on March 19, 2011, 12:55:36 PM
"Dnex" seems to have the most bio-assy info, and from what I can gather;  the compound seems really sort of hit or miss as far as activity is concerned..  Far as I know, there has not been a definitive answer as to why this would be so....
Title: Re: elemi oil
Post by: jokergrin on May 13, 2011, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: "senorsalvia""Dnex" seems to have the most bio-assy info, and from what I can gather;  the compound seems really sort of hit or miss as far as activity is concerned..  Far as I know, there has not been a definitive answer as to why this would be so....

I did some more reading - it seems as though one needs to have the oil be absorbed in the small intestine instead of the stomach, so to eat it right before a big meal.  Also, there may be evidence of more than one type of cytochrome p450 enzyme converting it; and the active metabolite is a different chem.

Very interesting though, for sure.