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Title: Bucket Head?
Post by: laughingwillow on April 11, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
LOL So, the wife has been telling me about this guy and I'm feeling like I've been living under a rock or something. How could you guys let me down by keeping me in the dark with this one? THey say he played with Banyon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8akmP6Sjv2o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8akmP6Sjv2o)

I sense a conspiracy........

lw
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: AliceTepes on April 11, 2010, 06:38:04 PM
he's played with just about everyone
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on April 11, 2010, 10:54:29 PM
Not really a fan myself, he plays like a machine, my idea of a guitar wizard is Johnny A or Snooks Eaglin.
On the other hand, Buckethead has a natural fashion sense. I wonder who his designer is?
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: Chris W on May 14, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
yeah he does the robot while playing blistering solos.  He wears the bucket and a mask while playing and that isn't easy.    He has plenty of slower songs with a LOOOOOT of feeling in them. Listen to Soothsayer for example.
   
    A lot of people are too quick to judge others.  Buckethead is one of the best guitarists out there period.  Some of his songs have more emotion in them than any song I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 16, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
Checked out Soothsayer- pretty cool. At least it was until he started "shredding". Then he got back into the mechanical finger exercise stuff that is so unmusical to these ears.

Some good stuff there, but give me Jeff Beck, Jimi Hendrix, Johnny A. John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny or even Joe Satriani any time.

As far as BH being the "best guitar player that ever lived" spare me please.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 16, 2010, 01:54:43 PM
Watching the BH vid. Does he even have a band up there?  Not one shot of the fellas. What's up with that.

I think he might be Eric Johnson on stilts. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 16, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtSIEkPqVgk
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 16, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
My young friend Tyson Graf is in the same race as BH

//http://www.tysongraf.com/
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: Chris W on May 16, 2010, 10:22:53 PM
JRL
  Yeah but check out....   "I love my parents", "Watching the boats with my Dad" or "For Mom". Theres more emotion in them songs than any other songs I have ever heard.

   Buckethead has such an amazingly wide range and thats just one of the reasons he is the best.  He can play anything. He can play Banjo, He can lay down some amazing funky bass. All while wearing the mask and sweating balls in his coveralls.  He has over 30 albums out.    He can make the guitar sound like a bunch of chickens with his tapping. He doesn't just copy other guitarists riffs "like most I have heard" but he lays new ground. In this day and age it isn't easy.
      Hes not just robotic speed  but he CAN shred the fuck out of the guitar. Versatility is what makes a guitarist great and he has PLENTY of it. So before you say he has no feeling in his playing I would study up a bit more on what he can do.
    I am a guitarist of 25 years and I DO know what I am talking about.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: Chris W on May 16, 2010, 10:27:01 PM
For Mom...
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_1EhZSffk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_1EhZSffk)
  Banjo....
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiGoFc_HHrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiGoFc_HHrE)
  Bass....
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVB-qcLQWas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVB-qcLQWas)

   All the while he is humble enough to not care if anyone even knows who the fuck he is. Now thats fucking GREAT.
  JRL  
    I checked out Tyson's website,   wheres the audio samples??   Tried the music section and nothing but cd sales and no sound clips. His site is almost completely empty. I really doubt he is in league with Buckethead. Sure maybe he can play fast like him but I bet he lacks Buckethead's immense creativity and talent in all styles.
  Also the songs I listed in the other post I can lay back in a hammock and trip out on mesc while listening. Totally relaxing stuff and it just doesn't get more relaxing than that. No way.
  Also  Satriani bores the hell out of me. Him and Vai. Yuck

   one more....
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2cdjRbc ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2cdjRbcKlI&feature=related)
  Cmon who the hell plays SLAP GUITAR????
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 01:33:55 PM
Slap guitar: Reggie Wooten and Slim Bawb Pearce come to mind right off the bat.

I'm not saying BH sucks, dude, how could anyone? He does know how to operate a guitar I'm just saying I don't connect with it. Pretty much all shredders leave me cold, I am so much more about one perfect note, with apt tone, and great feel.
I play a bit of guitar, a bit more bass and I have played with some fine fine guitar players. Guitar prowess doesn't float my boat, great music does. After backing 120, 000 guitar solos(this year lol) I must admit to being a bit jaded.

Sorry about Tyson's site, practicing 14 hours a day(I am not kidding) doesn't leave much time for self promotion. I will find you some youtube stuff he did a few years ago. He is for sure one to watch, cum laude at Berklee and Wayne Krantz has taken him under wing. I have seen him grow from a young kid guitar student to a top teacher at our store.

But as for me, one note from BB King, Snooks Eaglin or that Garcia fellow can touch me in places I didn't know I had places.
Other guitar players I love: Freddie and Albert King, Grant Green, Albert Collins, John Cippolina, Kenny Burrell, Steve Kimock, Terry Haggerty and the list goes on. it's all about the emotion to me, make me FEEL something, don't just try to impress me.
If you play good rhythm, now that gets my attention.

I'm not really a Satriani fanatic, though I like him better than Vai or Eric Johnson. Satch just seems more fun to me, and more soulfull.

I will put up some links to Tyson and maybe some tracks that I am on with real good guitar players.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 01:40:50 PM
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY22-DNSgBM
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 01:43:02 PM
More Ty
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhE7ZqH8g7Y&feature=related
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 01:49:30 PM
This one of my bands with the great Dave Lynch on the guitar:

//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VVL6Anypl8

Dave Lynch's band, a tune he wrote for me!

//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVq9n6licU4&feature=related
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
Two of my favorite guitar players: Both more legendary than famous (in the words of the great Omar Shariff a legend is a bad motherfucker that can't get paid)
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVq9n6licU4&feature=related
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
More Aaron King with me on the bass:
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8G_i9rztE
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: Chris W on May 17, 2010, 03:29:42 PM
I have to check out all your links.  The last one I checked out though. You sound pretty good on bass and I like the walking bass lines and always have. I play bass too.   The guitar player sounds ok but for some of it I don't like his choice of notes and he stumbled on some of it.  And I am not big on blues either.  5 note pentatonic scales are easy compared to jazz or classical.
   For instance listen to Django Rhienhart.  He can play slow meaningful notes but he can tear up the guitar also. He isn't a one trick pony. I find that the guitar players that can shred can play soulful notes all the better. Fretboard mastery
  But we obviously like different things in music and I respect that.
 But I think Buckethead can play music for ANY mood.  I wish I could do that lol. A guitarist that can play ANYTHING to me shows serious talent.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 17, 2010, 03:46:09 PM
I personally think that "shredding" is the opposite of "soul" Nothing wrong with technique, but it shouldn't be an end in itself.
I like people that put all that into one note, the intent is what communicates. You got tell stories , but you got to have a story to tell. And I hear that in BH, the dude has suffered in his life. That's what Tyson needs before he really becomes who he wants to be(Coltrane on the guitar). Like Bird said "you gotta live it". Music is a reflection of life, a means of communication.

PS I bet Buckethead loves the blues, I hear it when he slows down. Also Aaron King is Django plus blues all the way.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: Chris W on May 17, 2010, 10:43:59 PM
Have you heard Yngwie Malmsteen play the blues??   Man can he make notes just sing. The rest of his stuff mostly though is mindless shredding but man is he good at what he does.
   BTW are you the guy with the gigantic Salvia plants??  I need some help with mine.
Title: Re: Bucket Head?
Post by: JRL on May 18, 2010, 01:26:47 PM
nah, that's not me.