Where the hell you guys been? I turned my back a few years ago and pfttt! forum GONE.
I tried several times to find it again, in case it had been reincarnated, to no avail.
I see what i did wrong now: i googled "spirit plants forum" instead of "spiritplants forum".
Anyways, i really just joined in order to find help in meeting "Lucy". You know old Lucy :geek:
Heya Laughingwillow! Glider! etc.
Long story short, we've been here all along. Back in '04, we lost spiritplants.com, then in '05 we, well most of us, started the forums back up with spiritplants.org, sans all of our posts.
Hey, arkie-T. Long time, no?
Good to see you made it through the void and back out the other side.
lw
Well lookee here the Traveler is with us again!! Good to hear from you A.T... So, guess you're all primed and ready to fill us in on various and sundry nefarious deeds that have transpired during your cyber walkabout eh??? :wink: -- Take care
Yeah, i think i was real active around 2000-2002 AD.
Yeah, i been up to stuff (nothin' illegal, of course) which is all chronicled on my blog, but i better not post a link because i seem to recall the old forum had a rule about links to sites that attempt to sell stuff.
I consider you an old-time regular from back in the day with a grandfathered right for posting links, but I have no direct authority around these parts...
lw
o.k. in my book AT for you to post a link (as per trade forum rules on the top of the trade forum.)
Yeah, i had well over 500 posts at one time.
My site is http://loohan.com (http://loohan.com). I am posting this more to answer the question than to rustle up business, but i might be interested in some trades.
For the last 5 years almost, i have mainly been fighting demons, evil ETs, Satanists, black magic, etc. with considerable success.
My allies and i have wiped out the vast majority of demons in 6 universes.
I don't particularly pick up that the people on this forum have major issues with this at this time, but i bet things were different in recent years.
Especially people who expand their mind are considered a threat to these entities, who will wait until the person gets off, then severely jump them.
I have some cool orgone products i attempt to sell with sporadic success. Will have some new ones in a few days.
Also these free services:
http://loohan.com/services.htm (http://loohan.com/services.htm)
If you know anybody who has problems with demons, ETs, ghosts, etc. have them email me and i will most likely be able to do something effective.
nice selection. Looking at your site however I'd think you've gone mad however, but maybe I'm just ignorant.
Well, I definitely see a line scratched in cyber-sand, here, mon..... hehe :smoke1
lw
Huh? No, i agree with Avery. I've gone mad, and/or he's ignorant. No argument there.
Oooh...
Now I see a cyber-circle etched in silica....
lw
SO an ignorant man walks into a cyber-saloon and logs on next to a crazy dude. A misunderstanding inevitably ensues and the following exchange occurs....
Ignorant guy: Do you really want to fight?
Crazy dude: I already kicked your reptilian ass all the way back to the fifth dimension, mother-hisser....
lw
No offense A.T., I fully admit my ignorance and probably should refrain from commenting on things I don't understand. I just had to point it out I guess.
Irie,
Finally, someone as crazy as me?!! :e_surprised:
Great site! Really interesting.
Fantastic to see someone working with subtle energizes.
Respect
Z
Guess I'll have to put climb into the boat with the the ig-nerts.
lw
Yeah, it's not for everyone. People who are energy-sensitive tend to be more impressed.
Cannabis can help with that, i've heard, but i haven't tried it, of course.
Irie AT,
Just wondering if you have journeyed with Ayahusca or Mimoruehusca?
I've found it can help with negative Spirits and identifying spells,which can then be battled in the spirit realm.
Would like to hear more about your spirit battles.
Respect
Z
Funny, that. I've always considered myself fairly sensitive to subtle energies. Quartz crystals became important to me many years back...... When I play music with some people, I can feel a physical connection between us under most circumstances. (Unless one of us is wearing a hat.)
This is something else entirely, imo.
lw
Well, I'm sure it's all in the interpretation somehow. I'm continually amazed at how elaborate and detailed a universe a person can envision. Just how much of it is sensetivity or construct, I've only my personal experience and the collective consciousness I've exposed myself to, to draw on. That being said, it all seems a little elaborate, not that something possative could not be taken from it. Lots of brilliant and creative people swim over to the deep end of the pool...... it's just a long swim back if you catch my drift.
Irie Ave,
Love this quote.
QuoteLots of brilliant and creative people swim over to the deep end of the pool...... it's just a long swim back if you catch my drift.
My drift;
Reality is not only the three foot deep, kiddies end of the pool, where it's easy to see the bottom.
The pool is a hundred meters long, the deep end is 14 feet deep, some folks like to dive down to the bottom, to try and see what's there.
You're still in the pool!
It all real, but some, that don't go to the deep end, will only ever experience of the kiddies end & tales, stories & myths, will keep them from going down to the deep end of the pool.
If you catch my drift.
Respect
Z
Bring something back from the deep end of the pool for the rest of us to see, please. Elaborate constructs and bizarre proclamations that can in NO WAY be proven to us, uh, less sensitive folk isn't going to cut the reality mustard. At least not for me.
lw
And not to rain on anyone's unicorn parade, but when I go to the deep end of the pool to experience collective consciousness, as I'm prone to do on occasion, "good vs evil" is one of the human constructs I've discovered to be illusion. The world, in my reality construct, is a battery that needs both positive and negative poles to function properly. Attempting to eradicate that negative charge is not only futile, but shows a lack of understanding of the true nature of the universe, imo.
lw
The topic of "spiritual warfare" hit s pretty close to home these daze on the prairie. A local kid from a small town is currently on trial for murdering his high school football coach. (The kid graduated from high school five or six years ago.) For many reasons, not many of which make much sense to me, the kid decided the coach was evil and harming and killing children and so he up and murdered the guy one morning in the high school weight room where the coach was holding voluntary summer work outs for local athletes. Killed him dead. Told the kids he was protecting them and then blam. Now a well respected and award winning educator as well as community leader and roll model to local kids (quite a few of his former players are now competing in the NFL and to a man, they attribute their work ethic and subsequent success at the highest level of their sport to the coach in question)
But the guy is dead because a delusional individual carried his beliefs of spiritual warfare into the real world. A man is dead because another person was incapable of realizing that the war he fought was being waged solely in his head all along. The spiritual struggle above is really one man's struggle with his inner demons, imo. The danger lies at the point that one decides to take the inner spiritual struggle to the physical plane and then assign blame and subsequent judgement and administer punishment.
From reading at Commander Loohan's/Arkie T's site, I get the impression that he considers himself judge/jury and executioner of all he deems "evil" on the astral plane.
Through my travels in the collective consciousness, I've come to be suspect of those who fantasize about performing murder (even under the guise of war) on the astral plane. War is war, imo. And when the borders between fantasy and reality become blurred as they did for Mark Becker last year, innocent people can lose their lives.
lw
What a tragic end to an inspirational human being. (one idiot with a delusion can wipe out so much good - again)
appreciate you bringing this to this discussion, LW. A welcome drop of sanity in a whirlpool of insanity.
Thanks, judih....
Here's a link to the story above and an excerpt from an interview conducted with the "accused" shortly after the murder in question...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/highscho ... id=4919344 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/highschool/news/story?id=4919344)
In the interview, Becker spoke in a monotone about why he had wanted to kill Thomas, the 2005 NFL High School Coach of the Year who led efforts to rebuild Parkersburg after a huge tornado wiped out about one-third of the town and killed six people in 2008.
"He's a devil, he's a devil tyrant, he's suppressing the kids out here," Becker said of Thomas on the recording. "We can hardly breathe at night. He comes through and he turns us into fish and he turns us into animals and he turns us into dead people. He won't let us be our heavenly selves. He's been doing it forever."
Becker said that after the shooting he told the students present that they were free. Six students who witnessed the shooting have already testified.
"You go in there and kick him if you want to, but you're free. I said, 'Be free,' Becker exclaimed. "It's done, it's done, it's over."
During the interview, Becker told Callaway that he saw the devil, "a horned beast," in the room with them.
.....................................................................
After doing some reading at Commander Loohan's site, I see a connection between the way Mark Becker views the world and the way Loohan does. The main difference, (imo,) is the manner in which they have chosen to deal with their personal delusions. While both have transferred their delusions to the physical plane, assigned blame to specific individuals and remain convinced that action is needed to stop the rise of evil, one crossed the line from personal fantasy to murder. And for that reason, I see no reason to ignore, mollify or coddle this 10 ton elephant that wondered into the room.
lw
Irie,
Well, as I suspected......
Quotethe suspect has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, and his attorneys have said that they will try to show he is a paranoid schizophrenic who had not taken his prescribed medication the night before the shooting.
It's amazing that it always seems to be a common factor in these type of cases.
Respect
Z
Right on, zaka. A person HAS to be sick in the head to perform the crime above, imo.
However, another connection I see is that in each case an (admittedly sick) person externalizes their inner turmoil, placing unwarranted blame on others for provoking their illness and taking physical action against those they had previously only fantasized about being evil.
lw
Btw, zaka... Mental illness isn't always so cut and dry. Generally, if a person appears to be of no danger of doing harm to himself or others around him, some delusion behavior is tolerated.There exists a continuum of human activities and beliefs that allows for a certain amount of eccentric behavior, imo. Often folks are only tagged with labels like paranoid schizophrenic AFTER performing acts of violence that draw the attention of health care professionals involuntarily to the subject in question.
lw
Irie,
So you don't think it has anything to do with taking problematic child and sticking them on psychotropics, as I heard 50% of USA kids are now on, that warp their minds further.......
I think there has been one or two incidences like this? Collenbine?
I'm suspicious of these drugs, there seems to be more to it!
Respect
Z
zaka: No, not in this case. The behavior was a problem long before the kid was medicated. I believe the dangerous problems occurred when the young adult in question stopped taking his meds and allowed/invited the delusions back into his head.
lw
.. and as an example a little closer to home..
I have a brother-in-law in his mid 50's who has paranoid tendencies and has since he was a teen. However, because of the stigma attached with a diagnosis of that nature, his parents shielded him from the mental health establishment until he was an adult. And as he had no violent tendencies, that wasn't too difficult back then.
Joe goes to the doctor a lot and has been referred to mental health professionals as an adult. However, he chooses to remain med free. That means he lives in a basement of his father's house and ventures out for work. All doors are double locked and the guy is afraid of his own shadow. Occasionally, I'm called on to talk Joe down from one of his paranoid fantasies. I don't know why he calls me. But he does. While Joe proclaims to be miserable most every time we cross paths, at least he doesn't have any violent tendencies. Yet...... hehe
lw
Irie,
Joe would have probably been a hermit a few centuries ago.
Not sure what the psychotropics drugs would have done for him, but he's gotta be better off without them.
//http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55310
Respect
Z
Joe is miserable. But nobody can force him to take anything he doesn't want to. He spends the better part of his life in fear, contemplating and fretting about scenarios which will never transpire.
However, you sound like a medical professional so I'll have to go with your answer, Zaka. :e_wink:
lw
Irie,
QuoteHowever, you sound like a medical professional so I'll have to go with your answer,
Huh? No way, bro.!!!
Personally, I do not use medical professionals if at all possible.
Don't just believe me, man! Do a little research on it yourself.
Respect
Z
Hi AT! welcome back :D
Booosh
Yeah hi A.T.! Welcome back. Sorry for the thread highjack. Was just hoping to draw you out on that whole deal, not necissarily critisize as I'm sure LW's intentions are sound as well. We are all sensative in our own ways I guess and the human capacity is an unknown.
This whole silly thing makes me think of the cosmic joke, where the ego is what seperates not defines.
Zaka, I have been on a couple different psych meds, with good results.
Before you make proclamations, you need to walk a mile in my and others Chuck Taylors.
Irie,
JRL, I walk bare footed most of the time!
I appreciate that these meds may be useful for some people.
But there seems to be an increasing amount of issues concerning them.
Each to his own poison!
Respect
Z
Quote from: "Zaka"Not sure what the psychotropics drugs would have done for him, but he's gotta be better off without them.
Quote from: "Zaka"I appreciate that these meds may be useful for some people.
lw
Irie,
To each his own poison!
Knowing that prozac//http://www.antiaging-systems.com/apruses/prozac.htmpills are packed with fluoride & doesn't work better than a placebo!//http://www.metafilter.com/69373/Prozac-doesnt-work-better-than-placebo
Nah Mon, Not for me.
Hey but, like the Piggy Flu vaccines, if it works for you, Take Two!
Respect
Z
Zaka, people my age die from the flu.
One thing about the internet, anything you got, you can find a bunch of people that hate it, had problems with it or whatever.
Never did try Prozac, I now some people it really helped though. In my case ssris didn't work that well, but Wellbutrin may have saved my life, or at least the quality of life. It helped me to put to rest an issue that dominated my life for almost 30 years.
So like you say, each to his own poison, but respect is more than just a word.
Back to the topic at hand. I peeped arkieT's site a bit in the last while. Heres' what I've gleaned about Commander Loohan/Arkie T from these visits.
Arkie used to work for the scientologists until the "Nazis" took over the organization.
He is one of the few humans with 96 chakras. ( Some humans have as few as 5. Although he claims those people can have some worth too.)
Loohan is able to physically feel the attacks of countless spiritual entities bent on destroying him. Over time, he's developed methods and programs to thwart these attacks and retaliate with his own spiritual offense.
He drives around the Ozarks armed with enough orgone based spiritual weapons to clear an area of all evil for up to 30' below the surface. Apparently there are nests of evil aliens living below the earth's crust. He can look at google maps of the earth and pin point the exact location far under ground of bunkers filled with evil entities. He can do the same for residential houses where satinists reside.
Loohan programs stones to incarcerate evil beings. He has killed, imprisoned and stopped the reincarnation of countless QUINTILLIONS of evil aliens, including but not limited to greys, reptillians and Satan himself. He has the ability to spiritually pull people from their bodies and replace with positive beings. (He did this to Obama.)
ArkieT/Loohan runs a website where one can go to purchase any and all tools needed to battle evil on the spiritual plane. He has several running feuds going with others who feel they have the same (or greater) power. For some reason, they appear to have a difficult time agreeing upon what transpires during their mutual remote viewing sessions and battles for the very future of the universe, as well as other various details of theory, practice and terms used.....
lw
Quote from: "Zaka"I appreciate that these meds may be useful for some people.
With all due respect, I'm not sure that I believe that. I've read a whole bunch of your posts on this board, and the world seems to seem utterly black-and-white to you. Drugs bad, plants good. Alternative insightful, "mainstream" deluded. Anyone who disagrees with you is accused of being closed minded (how's
that for irony?), and anything with even a hint of social acceptance is outright evil. You seem to embody an anti-authoritarianism that puts the most conservative yes-man to shame (albeit in the opposite sense). You seem to have a relatively simple lens through which you view the world, and there are no exceptions to the pictures it takes.
Maybe I'm wrong, but you've never evidenced any willingness to consider a position that goes against your inclinations.
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On the topic at hand, I agree that there is great danger in the literal interpretation of subjective experience. It is, I think, a manifestation of a topsy-turvy Materialism, in which all felt truths have to be projected into physical reality to be considered to have weight.
To an extent I understand the desire. As above, so below, right? If the physical is a manifestation of the spiritual, then spiritual truths and beheld experience
must be instantiated in physical reality, right?
Sort of, but not really. In the same way that spiritual texts lose much of their beauty when they are interpreted as scientific or historical texts, I think people do themselves a disservice when the
force their subjective experience into literal consonance with physical reality. And as LW points out, such forcing can be perilous.
Truth needs to be redefined; the Materialist have held sway for too long, placing their truth above all others. Until people can understand that a poetic or mythic truth is just as "true" as a physical or historical one, this danger will always be there.
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I can look at an "orgone accumulator" and see poetic and aesthetic beauty in it, but why do people consider poetic beauty
not enough? Why can't they stand as spiritual performance art?
This makes them no-less true than "implements of physical transformation."----
I really have no words to capture well what I'm trying to say, because the words are heard in a way that reflects the existential assumptions of the listener, and no words I can say can alter those existential assumptions. Here's a little thought experiment to illustrate the difficulty:
Imagine that one constructs one of these devices and decides to treat a handful of seeds with them. This person grows out these seeds (along with a handful that were not treated): lo and behold, the treated seeds grow more vibrantly. How does one explain this?
The believer and the non-believer use the same paradigm. They
think they're on opposite sides of the issue, but in reality they are on the same side, because they both order truths along the same structural principles.
And I'm claiming these principles are limited.
The materialist can be happy with this orientation--let's face it, whenever something is evaluated within a system that has materialism baked into it, the materialist perspective will always hold sway. But the believers? They will always be marginalized, for they have ceded the game before they started playing.
Grok this: an orgone accumulator will never be validated in materialist trials, so if that's your measure of success, you will alway fail. So perhaps it is better--and more fulfilling--to enjoy the lush plants. Isn't that more meaningful measure of success from the human perspective, anyway?
Try to believe this for a few minutes: The plant grow more lushly and vibrantly
because this is more meaningful within that particular piece of spiritual performance art, not because the accumulator has produced some kind of physical effect.
Teleology lies at the heart of experience. Things are determined by "whys," not "hows." this is reflected in the deepest levels of reality, much deeper than the surface, physical layers.----
Sorry for the rant. Just trying to clarify some things for myself...
You said Grok..... I think I see another hienlein fan!
Thanks, amom. THanks for the perspective. It makes sense to me.
Andrew: That makes three Heinlein fans!
ps: Don't get me wrong.... I have harbored and maybe continue to hold a few, what one might call, "bizarre or incredible" beliefs that I picked up on da spiritual plane. Its difficult not to drag them back, imo. Over time, I've come to recognize them for what they are; myths relevant to my personal journey and not for public consumption. And while I believe we should all be the main characters in our own personal explorations, transferring that self-importance back to the physical plane and deeming oneself judge/jury and executioner is a potentially dangerous delusion, imo.
As a matter of fact, in the psychedelic tradition in which I have been raised, it is always of community interest when students reach a certain stage in their/our growth, as there comes the inevitable point when we attempt to reconcile the physical with the spiritual for the first time. This stage is of interest, I believe, as it is the time when potentially dangerous behavior might occur in the physical due to the psychic pressure being applied. The community doesn't really knows how an individual another will act under this type of duress until its happening. Will it be fight or flight or something else? Nio one knows until the orgone hits the road.....
lw
Heinlein is cool; he's one of the few authors that both me and the misses have read and enjoyed.
My nine-year old is starting to read some of his books, but we're keeping him away from the Future History series (even though they're some of the better books). Frankly, we should probably just give us, call a spade a spade, and change his and his sister's name to Oedipus and Electra. I don't think an exposure to the incest would be helpful for him at his tender developmental stage! Plus, my wife and I both value our lives too much.
Quote from: "Avery L. Breath"You said Grok..... I think I see another hienlein fan!
And another!
Have you ever seen pictures of Heinlein's 1952 House of the Future (//http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/pm652-art-hi.html)?
I have experimented with 'huasca, but the tryptamines were never high enough to get me off.
Back when i was young and crazy (and it was available on the web) i went thru many grams of meo, tho, along with harmala extract i made.
However since becoming keenly aware of demons, etc. in Summer '05, i have not had any psychedelic opportunites hit me broadside, and have been distracted and heavily under attack anyway.
Actually, i've had 500g of killer chaliponga in the freezer for well over a year, untouched, and i have some great yage too, but it's such a hassle requiring planning and i haven't had time to mess with it. Yet.
Was much easier when one could just pull out a pipe and sprinkle in some stuff...
I have chronicled my battles ad infinitum on my blog.
Quote from: "Zaka"Irie AT,
Just wondering if you have journeyed with Ayahusca or Mimoruehusca?
I've found it can help with negative Spirits and identifying spells,which can then be battled in the spirit realm.
Would like to hear more about your spirit battles.
Respect
Z
Quote from: "laughingwillow"And not to rain on anyone's unicorn parade, but when I go to the deep end of the pool to experience collective consciousness, as I'm prone to do on occasion, "good vs evil" is one of the human constructs I've discovered to be illusion. The world, in my reality construct, is a battery that needs both positive and negative poles to function properly. Attempting to eradicate that negative charge is not only futile, but shows a lack of understanding of the true nature of the universe, imo.
lw
I disagree. We here do not live in a natural yin/yang balanced universe. We live in a perverted evil timeline that has been way too saturated with horrible evil for eons.
And it was corrupting the positive timelines.
My allies and i are all about turning this timeline into a positive one.
Actually it is internal (but foreign, installed) as well as external real demons who feed such thoughts into people's heads. I have dealt with quite a bit of that.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Right on, zaka. A person HAS to be sick in the head to perform the crime above, imo.
However, another connection I see is that in each case an (admittedly sick) person externalizes their inner turmoil, placing unwarranted blame on others for provoking their illness and taking physical action against those they had previously only fantasized about being evil.
lw
Yes, i am a 96. Some people have as 7. In fact, the vast majority in n this timeline have 12 or 7.
LW ang Glider for example, are 24s.
BTW i just wanted to mention i love you guys. SPF forum is about as scumbag-free a place as can be found in this evil world, aside from the occasional mark, er, i mean nark. BTW LW, my awesome psychic abilites confirm you were right on about that Dimitri -seeker, and i couldn't have handled with better diplomacy myself.
"Countless quintillions" hah hah, that's not even remotely close to a zillionth of the ballpark. You have no idea how saturated this universe was.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Back to the topic at hand. I peeped arkieT's site a bit in the last while. Heres' what I've gleaned about Commander Loohan/Arkie T from these visits.
Arkie used to work for the scientologists until the "Nazis" took over the organization.
He is one of the few humans with 96 chakras. ( Some humans have as few as 5. Although he claims those people can have some worth too.)
Loohan is able to physically feel the attacks of countless spiritual entities bent on destroying him. Over time, he's developed methods and programs to thwart these attacks and retaliate with his own spiritual offense.
He drives around the Ozarks armed with enough orgone based spiritual weapons to clear an area of all evil for up to 30' below the surface. Apparently there are nests of evil aliens living below the earth's crust. He can look at google maps of the earth and pin point the exact location far under ground of bunkers filled with evil entities. He can do the same for residential houses where satinists reside.
Loohan programs stones to incarcerate evil beings. He has killed, imprisoned and stopped the reincarnation of countless QUINTILLIONS of evil aliens, including but not limited to greys, reptillians and Satan himself. He has the ability to spiritually pull people from their bodies and replace with positive beings. (He did this to Obama.)
ArkieT/Loohan runs a website where one can go to purchase any and all tools needed to battle evil on the spiritual plane. He has several running feuds going with others who feel they have the same (or greater) power. For some reason, they appear to have a difficult time agreeing upon what transpires during their mutual remote viewing sessions and battles for the very future of the universe, as well as other various details of theory, practice and terms used.....
lw
Quote from: "Amomynous"Quote from: "Zaka"Grok this: an orgone accumulator will never be validated in materialist trials, so if that's your measure of success, you will alway fail. So perhaps it is better--and more fulfilling--to enjoy the lush plants. Isn't that more meaningful measure of success from the human perspective, anyway?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swl4lCr2 ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swl4lCr2XkA&feature=channel)
http://loohan.com/icicles.jpg (http://loohan.com/icicles.jpg)
http://loohan.com/burke.htm (http://loohan.com/burke.htm)
Evidence of physical universe effects of orgone.
And incidentally, i have had countless people thank me for rescuing them, their kids, etc.
Uh, yeah........ I just went to the linked "proof." All I see are claims that you influenced the weather and cleaned up contrails. You have a might big ego, imo.
And according to zaka above, there are plenty of folks "out there" who will claim to have benefited from sketchy treatments such as prozac. Why should your evil busting program be any different?
lw
ArkieT: I've read on your site that you have assisted folks in their spiritual fights against evil. I've also read the descriptions you have provided about spiritual attacks you regularly experience and your methods of fighting off the aggressors.
What I see is a type of creative visualization that you have incorporated to fight your personal demons (delusions). However, the therapy, from here, appears to comfort you but ultimately does nothing for the problem at hand (demons in your head) as you readily admit. You wrote that after you destroy or imprison the attacking demon, more arrive to take his/her place. And thus begins a period in which you feel physical pain of spiritual attacks by demons who arrive as quickly as you can dispatch them to the promised land. After awhile, the episode ends and you feel you have won the battle against evil.
What you have really done is assist yourself through a period of delusional thinking by creative visualization, and there is nothing wrong with that, imo.
And it doesn't surprise me that certain individuals could get the same (temporary) relief from their mental illness by following your instructions or even just being there as a non-judgmental third party who is buying into their delusions unlike most people around them.
lw
Quote from: "Amomynous"Have you ever seen pictures of Heinlein's 1952 House of the Future (//http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/pm652-art-hi.html)?
nice!
I like Frank Herbert, too.
"Soul Catcher" really touched me.
lw
I think I read that, also all the Dunes(first one best by far) and some other ones.
John Brunner is good too. And Philip Dick.
Yeah, that 1st Dune book was pretty darn good. I still love looking up Frank Herbert quotes for the philosophy behind them. In the genre he's tops.
It's funny I still have a big sci-fi jones these days. You'd think a person would grow out of it, like other childhood things. I mostly hit up the local used book stores for 50-60's era stuff as itt's the golden era as far as I'm concerned and it's hard to find new good sci-fi. I must admit though, I have to weed through alot of vintage pulp before I find one worth keeping. A current classic I've stumbled across is Space prison by tom godwin. Brilliant!
http://manybooks.net/titles/godwint2254922549.html (http://manybooks.net/titles/godwint2254922549.html)
Heinlien though in particular. He was so progressive in thought for the era he was coming from. Only fault I've noticed in his works is he ends them poorly half the time.
What about the fantasy genre? Or is that pretty much the same as sci-fi?
lw
A little Frank Herbert trivia:
In the Dune books, the spice "Melange" (I think that's how it was spelled -- it's been a long time) turns the eyes blue because Herbert was a big fan of Psilocybe mushrooms, and the blue was an homage to this.
(This is actually not just Internet stoner lore, and comes from a good Source (Paul Stametes, who knew Herbert, documented the fact in Mycelium Running).)
Things are starting to make sense. We now know that psilocyben begat melange and I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that melange was a precursor to dragibus......
Don't you guys see the pattern here? hehe
lw
Just had the wildest astral attack. I got hit with this palpable death-intent from a female Russian in the Langley, VA area working for the CIA. No soul, but awesome psychic attack power.
She was really tough. I enjoyed the sporting, overt quality of the attack. I didn't call in my allies, just my tools. Finally overpowered her, and 8 more jumped me! But these were weaker. Then, 9 Russian men jumped me! I beat them all down except for one, and he turned out to be incredibly powerful. Took many minutes of focused intent to stare him down.
I do not know if they are crippled now or will bounce back even stronger in a while. That could get annoying.
Meanwhile, i had my allies and tools chase up connections and locations.
Here is where the attackers are. As well as 4 CIAtanists. The focal point is at that pyramid peak, which must be over a power spot.
Here is where they received their most recent training, under Andrews AFB just east of DC. This underground spot has 202 satanists, 100 of whom are Russian, doing more training. It has an amazingly nasty vibe.
To be continued...
(11:40pm) Here is where these people resided prior to that. Man, is it DORy. Not in Russia as i expected, but Hokkaido, Japan. 301-400' down. US Air Force base. 311 Air Forcatanists, 200 Russian satanists, 101 Japanesatanists. The latter 2 groups are training to be DOR-emitting psi weapons.
Feb. 25, '10: (7:30am) Well, that mess feels cleaned up. Only one really odd thing: they moved all the people who were in that VA house into a U base, knowing full well what would then be the fate of this base. It's little things like that that make me wonder about my dowsing. Why would the CIA be so stupid? Why would they want that base destroyed and those people killed? They didn't even bother to attempt any cloaking.
Anyway, here it is in Rhode Island, just east of Providence. Depth 111-200'. 121 CIAtanists. 23 Russians. Now being wiped.
(5:55pm) Well, good to get rid of that scene. Them Russkies made demons look real wimpy. They fought bare-handedly and courageously. They were truly impressive worthy opponents. But i didn't want more of that action. Without all my toys, i would have been sunk. It's a good thing they didn't hit me with this 5 years ago. Recent innovation, i guess.
It was clear this morning early, except for 1 little marker segment.
But when i looked out mid-morning, it was half whited-out with chemclouds. Seems like it was about 60-80% whited out the rest of the day.
In other words, still no signs of chem-rationing.
Feels like Earthshaker2 made it to Ft. Worth. I haven't looked up the tracking #. Hope it stays there overnight.
(6:05pm) Trying to determine where the chem came from that the NSA is spraying overhead. I came up with this DORy spot, but there is nothing shown in the center where the energy is. I presume a metal bldg has been erected there, because i feel nothing underground. Also i seem to feel metal walls being programmed now.
Those visible bldgs have 31 satanists living there, all working not for the NSA, but the other, ad-hoc, agency i became aware of last year after NOAA got out of the spraying business.
(7:50pm) Stumbled across another very nasty feeling Category 1 Scumbag newager: Jim McElwee. If you are at all sensitive to this stuff, you will note that the vibe of that page is the opposite of Christ Consciousness.
This one feels real nasty, too.
Jim's Physical Address: 178 Glade Dr. Long Pond, PA 18334.
(8:10pm) Forgot to mention, they also laid down a bunch of trails this afternoon, and are still at it well after dark.
I was in Marshall and saw a trail across the whole sky, with a parallel blue line most of that distance. I didn't have a camera, and the lighting was all wrong, anyway.
We found 5 more above-ground storage depots in the US (TX, IN, CO, NV, NM) which my allies are hitting. The golden Draco don't mess with above-ground targets, but the Rojohy have no such inhibitions. They are hitting these targets from ships with some kind of strong energy, but what that will do i don't know.
The Rojohy have now brought through a bunch of animals that are really highly sentient warriors: 1500 big black horses, 500 donkeys, 500 pigs, 500 sheep(!), 500 goats, 500 rabbits, 500 mice. I think 1 more group of 500 will come thru soon: box turtles!
OK, sounds laughable, but i know a few of you out there are psychic enough to connect with these critters.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"What about the fantasy genre? Or is that pretty much the same as sci-fi?
lw
sci-fi/fantasy, pretty much the same. I guess I don't read much fantasy anymore though..... just doesn't do it for me like it did when I was a kid. I can still pick up a little piers anthony though 'on a pale horse' & the bio of a space tyrant series left a big impression on me. My favorite fantasy still would have to be the rift war saga by Raymond E. Fiest.... it's the series that got me into liking reading in the first place.
Jessica has vastly expanded my concepts of what it possible, both in terms of good and evil. I still have problems comprehending it. On the one hand, she has been capable of some of the most remarkable healing, even stuff that Jesus couldn't do. On the other hand, there was a covert thread of extreme evil in her (which hopefully has now been handled).
Join me on my roller-coaster ride of discovery from some blog excerpts. I start off here referring to a type of healing therapy she devised which is very effective on flipping evil astral species to the good side. So far it seems to work on maybe 70% of species we've tried......
Aug. 22, '09: In other news, i noticed yesterday that Jehovah is getting trained up on this therapy stuff. He'll be able to give me a hand and speed things up. It's possible that some of you can, too. Just have your higher self go to Jessica's 21D self....
...In fact, in general, if you need help from Jessica, it may be best right now to bypass her and go directly to her higher selves. Lately (if i read things right) her higher selves have "disowned" her until she resolves some ego issues, etc. In fact, i and my allies have been working with them to ream, steam, and dry-clean her intensively. She had an awful lot of "stuff" that i didn't notice until recently. I hate to have to bring this up. It's only because i have been raving to so many (in private emails too) about what a pure-hearted goddess she is. Which is basically true, but she needs some work to overcome certain things.
Aug. 27, '09: A little while ago i realized that my 21D self never completed working on Jessica. Somehow she bamboozled him into quitting prematurely. So now he's back on the job.
Aug. 31, '09: Well, it's official. Jessica Schab and i are no longer friends. I just got an email from her (the first since July 12) just saying not to write her any more.
Recently i have written her about the evil 6D Jessicas (which i think she created when she was 7) that have been attacking me like any other demon lately. So far i have destroyed over 20 octillion of them. Their energy is going to feed crystals to rehabilitate her, hopefully.
In a few days i will post a special page all about her, and the weird stuff going on with her. Essentially, she is evil by free-will choice, and will do good or evil to aggrandize and popularize herself. She had an energy vamp thing going with her followers, which i have curtailed.
Again, this only seems to apply to the ego-self running her physical body. I am still working with her higher selves as well as some good 5D Jessicas i call Jessica 1 thru 17. She also has some 25 quintillion 8D angelic versions of herself who do the healing. They are still doing healing for me and my friends. If you need healing, appeal to her good 6D self.
If i am right in this, she now has lost most of her charisma and her psi and healing abilities, and her ability to charm people has cratered.
Some time back i gave her a kami, for which she never thanked me, but she was feeding it according to my directions (kamis like to have etheric buttercup flowers and okra pods spiraled down into their crowns). A week or so ago, the kami still liked her and wanted to stay with her. But last night i got in touch with her (the kami) and she was unhappy. No longer liked Jessica and wanted to go home to Japan. I said, go ahead, you are under no obligation. So now she's back in Hokkaido, and happy.
(6:55pm) I am yanking all the 8D healer Jessicas. My friend in NM has been having mysterious horrible health problems i couldn't detect a cause for. She had 4 of Jessica's healer angels working on her. I realized one was DORy! The others seemed OK but my guidance is bust them all. Interesting: they are all going into jail. I can't move [without permission] or bind benign beings, only evil ones. This is blowing my mind....
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Uh, yeah........ I just went to the linked "proof." All I see are claims that you influenced the weather and cleaned up contrails. You have a might big ego, imo.
And according to zaka above, there are plenty of folks "out there" who will claim to have benefited from sketchy treatments such as prozac. Why should your evil busting program be any different?
lw
Funny, i thought i provided photographic evidence that i mopped up chemtrails and little chem-clouds.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"ArkieT: I've read on your site that you have assisted folks in their spiritual fights against evil. I've also read the descriptions you have provided about spiritual attacks you regularly experience and your methods of fighting off the aggressors.
What I see is a type of creative visualization that you have incorporated to fight your personal demons (delusions). However, the therapy, from here, appears to comfort you but ultimately does nothing for the problem at hand (demons in your head) as you readily admit. You wrote that after you destroy or imprison the attacking demon, more arrive to take his/her place. And thus begins a period in which you feel physical pain of spiritual attacks by demons who arrive as quickly as you can dispatch them to the promised land. After awhile, the episode ends and you feel you have won the battle against evil.
What you have really done is assist yourself through a period of delusional thinking by creative visualization, and there is nothing wrong with that, imo.
And it doesn't surprise me that certain individuals could get the same (temporary) relief from their mental illness by following your instructions or even just being there as a non-judgmental third party who is buying into their delusions unlike most people around them.
lw
Very astute, and you're probably right. Anyway, i didn't come here to convince anyone of anything, change anyone, sell anything, or prove that i am the messiah.
I came here to indulge my botanophile proclivities with some hip folks like my mellow old buddy LW.
And someone asked me what i'd been up to, and i replied in an straightforward manner.
Only a very small minority of lunatics can relate to my stuff; i don't have a problem with that.
I am the cat that ate the canary, getting back to positive things now that the tide has turned.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Just had the wildest astral attack.
If people read my stuff, i'd prefer they did it on my site instead of a pasted version that has all the links and pics removed.
Those of you who are psychic may find that you CAN contact the good entities i mention. You might detect the evil/good conflicting energy over the bases i mention (when the action is ongoing).
My Ambassador is named Fo-Touki.
My bodyguard is Cora.
My coil/crystal tech goddess is Antuvozy.
Say hi to them.
Say hi to Vo, the 4' tortoise.
Say hi to Acro, a 5-mile long, whale-like entity with a dog-like face. He's real friendly.
LOL Wipe chem trails? ArkiT, ol buddy, you gave proof that you know how to operate a camera and that's it, imo.
If I take a picture of the sky, the view is sure to change over time. JUst because I take one picture when its sunny and another when its raining doesn't mean I changed the weather. It means I took a picture.
Btw, I never said you were the only "sensitive" one around these parts. YOu and zaka make a great couple, imo. (respect)
Talk about delusional visions of grandeur.... Your ego knows no equal, arkieT. You are a friggin super hero in your own
Incidentally, Dilbert seems to get to the crux of this very topic this morning. Even down to the point of why I initially hesitated to say much about the material arkie T linked in an early post.
http://www.dilbert.com/strips (http://www.dilbert.com/strips)
lw
I could show you a photo of a German Shepard, and decalre it to be a dog, and you would say i have no proof it isn't a camel in disguise.
I gave sequential shots of the same trails blowing out in the center.
I gave videos of chem-clouds vanishing at a fast pace.
And how do you account for the icicles growing UPWARD?
BTW, i have no idea how big they originally were, as i only noticed them after all the snow had melted off the chem-buster, and almost all the icicles had fallen off my roof-line.
Orgone affects the etheric directly. The etheric tends to affect the physical universe to some extent, but it is usually very delayed if it occurs at all. So photographic evidence is not always easy to get.
And then in the absence of double-blind testing, it is hard to prove anything.
Yes, i am unable to prove that the fact that Arkansas and many other areas no longer have droughts, has anything to do with my constant work on them.
And i am unable to prove that the diminishment in hurricane terror in recent years was at all caused by me.
So chalk it up to coincidence.
So does YOUR philosophy grow corn? I do have dozens of emails from people thanking me for rescuing them.
I do get hundreds of $$ in donations every month lately, to defray some of my costs.
I guess i got a bunch of dupes believing me due to my magnetic charisma.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"LOL Wipe chem trails? ArkiT, ol buddy, you gave proof that you know how to operate a camera and that's it, imo.
If I take a picture of the sky, the view is sure to change over time. JUst because I take one picture when its sunny and another when its raining doesn't mean I changed the weather. It means I took a picture.
Btw, I never said you were the only "sensitive" one around these parts. YOu and zaka make a great couple, imo. (respect)
Talk about delusional visions of grandeur.... Your ego knows no equal, arkieT. You are a friggin super hero in your own
Incidentally, Dilbert seems to get to the crux of this very topic this morning. Even down to the point of why I initially hesitated to say much about the material arkie T linked in an early post.
http://www.dilbert.com/strips (http://www.dilbert.com/strips)
lw
Quote from: "Arkansas Traveler"I could show you a photo of a German Shepard, and decalre it to be a dog, and you would say i have no proof it isn't a camel in disguise.
I gave sequential shots of the same trails blowing out in the center.
I gave videos of chem-clouds vanishing at a fast pace.
Just as a point of protocol, if you're doing an empirical investigation, you'd have to provide something like a control. Something like this would hold up pretty well in an empirical investigation:
1) You go out with someone, and over time identify 10 "chem trails."
2) A random choice is made: 50% of the time you try to disperse the chem trail, 50% of the time you don't.
3) A picture is taken at the beginning and after some given amount of time (say, after 10 minutes of busting)
for both the trails you try to bust and the one's you don't4) Those pictures would be given to someone who doesn't know which ones you tried to disperse, and this person would try to identify which ones you worked on.
5) Results are compared to chance.
You see, when you work on a trail, you're spending time looking at it. But how often do these things disperse without the work? You'd really need to do something like the above to answer that question.
Of course, a trial of 10 is very small, so any statistical significance would relatively small.
Empirical investigations take a lot of time and are hard work. That's why I suggest that it's probably better for you to enjoy the fruits of your labors in aesthetic/poetic/mythical ways. Much more fun, and ultimately more meaningful.
As I stated (somewhat flakily, I admit) in an earlier post, I think there are many ways of living life, and I believe that the "whys" are more important than the how. If chem trail busting works for you, it works
because that is meaningful in the art that is your life, not through some poorly understood physical energy.
If investigated empirically as an energy, it would fail. The aesthetics just aren't right.
I've been a little down in the dumps as of late. It wasn't easy coming to the realization that that God skipped over me when he was was handing out super powers. So I went on a little music shopping jag and bought a new disc on-line from cdbaby. Sure, it wasn't easy picking something out with all the offerings available these days. But in the end, all my hard work paid off. I not only uncovered a gem of an album, but I also found a company that recognizes MY greatness. While I haven't figured out just HOW they got my photo for their wall, I'm guessing that if they were smart enough to recognize my status solely through examining ONE of my musical choices, SOMEONE in that company must be pretty dang intelligent and maybe a little psychic.......
I'll probably travel out to the west coast one of these days so the guys working at cdbaby can meet me in person and get a SIGNED portrait for their wall.
lw
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