Irie,
I would just like to get some opinions from some of the health care professionals that frequent this site.
Please listen to all 8 parts if you can, but for sure the first 3-4. Then let me know what you think?
[youtube:1z8meowq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHxHmHa9qvs&feature=related[/youtube:1z8meowq]
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Z
Irie,
Just thought I'd lay this one down on you'll....
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Z
[youtube:3cona3mr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDxJgJRqPng[/youtube:3cona3mr]
Haven't had a chance to watch them all yet, but just looking at the title of the second posted about saying no to vaccines (could be to one in particular by the wording) makes me want to scream. Anti-vaccination groups are one of the things that irk me the most in the medical spectrum. I will watch the videos later this afternoon I imagine and will make a more informed post thereafter.. I promise I will keep my mind open and biases minimised ;)
Irie VB,
Much appreciated.
Don't mind the title, it's just a really good funky track.....the info is incidental?maybe?
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Z
Hi VB,
I would consider looking into that more. There are many reasons for not taking a swine flu jab, there are many reasons why vaccination in general is not a good thing to be doing. Far too large a subject to delve into here suffice to say when you start looking it seems that the proposed benefits are not as described and the underestimated detrimental health issues are not highlighted enough. From my reading on the subject you soon find the scales of balance start to tip the other way.
BP
What about polio vacine? How many po;io survivors have you met? It's not pretty. This is a bit personal, my father's first wife was amongst that last crop of people to die from it, pre Salk.
Polio was in sharp decline before the vaccine. Have leant 2 of my books on it, when i get them back will post some links. Whats more I remember reading a paper/jounral article on a polio outbreak in Oman, the outbreak occured in fully vaccinated population...point was, seemed ineffective.
I'm sure you should know about SV40 ? If not do some googling on it, essentially the polio vaccine was responsible for the cancers and deaths of 10's of thousands.
Not good,
Whatsmore we nearly had a recent repeat....baxter releasing human flu 'accidentally' mixed up with bird flu...hrmmmmm and we let these people make the swine flu vaccines ?
Whatsmore whatsmore...mandatory vaccines? are you mad ? Nuermberg trials/code anyone?
Booosh
So I take it when you get a deep puncture wound you don't get a tenanus(sp?) shot?
You ever see someone with lockjaw?
I had a tetnus jab a few years ago when i was a gardener, knowing what I know now I will never get another one. You may find this information helpful in regards to tetanus:
http://www.whale.to/v/tetanus.html (http://www.whale.to/v/tetanus.html)
Booosh
Quote from: "Bushpig"I had a tetnus jab a few years ago when i was a gardener, knowing what I know now I will never get another one. You may find this information helpful in regards to tetanus:
http://www.whale.to/v/tetanus.html (http://www.whale.to/v/tetanus.html)
Booosh
Irie Booosh,
Thanks, great info!
I'm with you. No more for me or my family!
Even the conventional reasons given for vaccines sounds dodgy when you stop to think about it.
Introducing a disease with a hypodermic needle bye passing the bodies natural filtration system, just seems flawed!
Far less the other metals and poisons that they wack in there for good measure!
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Z
Some interesting historic vaccine facts with links
http://rense.com/general87/historic.htm (http://rense.com/general87/historic.htm)
Quote from: "Zaka"Introducing a disease with a hypodermic needle bye passing the bodies natural filtration system, just seems flawed!
Far less the other metals and poisons that they wack in there for good measure!
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Z
But the disease lacks the DNA/RNA needed to replicate (assuming its not a prion) or has been heat killed. What it does is exposes your body to the alien protein allow the body to become more resistant to it the next time. Things like chicken pox, measles, and mumps still kill people in some countries. And personally I wouldn't want my kid to be upset with me because they got shingles later in life. But thats just my 2 cents.
Quote from: "YlidKorin"But the disease lacks the DNA/RNA needed to replicate (assuming its not a prion) or has been heat killed. What it does is exposes your body to the alien protein allow the body to become more resistant to it the next time. Things like chicken pox, measles, and mumps still kill people in some countries. And personally I wouldn't want my kid to be upset with me because they got shingles later in life. But thats just my 2 cents.
Irie,
So what's wrong about getting chicken pox, measles, and mumps, naturally? I had all of these before they started vaccinating for them!
And as for the piggy flu;
The FDA has produced absolutely no scientific evidence documenting safety tests for any of these swine flu vaccines. //http://www.examiner.com/x-10438-Human-Rights-Examiner~y2009m10d9-Breaking-Vaccine-recall-possible-Lawsuit-against-FDA-for-failed-H1N1-vaccine-safety-test
I'd rather my kids got upset with me for getting shingles later in life, than becoming autistic!!!
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Z
Quote from: "YlidKorin"Things like chicken pox, measles, and mumps still kill people in some countries. And personally I wouldn't want my kid to be upset with me because they got shingles later in life. But thats just my 2 cents.
that is a tripy video thing
JLS
Question for y'all: has polio touched your lives in anyway?
Oh wait, y'all were vaccinated as kids.
It killed my father's first wife, and put a good friend in a wheelchair for life.
Polio crippled a friend of our family.
lw
Salk and Sabin ended that almost instantly, though I wouldn't be surprised if it rears it's ugly head amongst the non vaccinated.
a friend of mine from England had it when he was a kid. These days it appears now and then, but he works through it, taking it a little easier. He does t'ai chi, practising daily, so he's learned to live with it.
(He's about 58 yrs old, by the way)
Not to sound like an ass (but to be a bit of one): I don't know why you all continue to spend time in Zaka's threads. I mean, if a person can't tell the difference between chickenpox and polio, what's to be had by engaging them in conversation?
Oh, wait! There's a Youtube video for that! Never mind.
Irie,
//http://www.vaccinetruth.org/page_13.htm
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Z
Sorry, zaka. I don't care to watch your links anymore.
I'd rather know how many people you PERSONALLY know who have been affected by bad vaccines.
lw
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Sorry, zaka. I don't care to watch your links anymore.
I'd rather know how many people you PERSONALLY know who have been affected by bad vaccines.
lw
Irie,
Well FU for your response lw, I know that someone as closed minded as you appear to be, may prefer to bury your head in the sand...Good luck!
For others that want to see what the establishment isn't telling you, read the link!
As for how many people, what ya want a number?
Of what?
People that have had bad reactions to, what so called good vaccines?
or vaccines that have gone bad and affected people??
Or how many people that I know that have died from soft-kills in the vaccines, years later?
Sorry I'm just not that trusting of an establishment that tell all of us for the 50yrs that sodium fluoride is good for your teeth....Lap it up!
Hey there's a new flu shot out that has already got the new piggy flu in it, go get ya self a shot!
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Z
Quote from: "Zaka"Well FU for your response lw, I know that someone as closed minded as you appear to be, may prefer to bury your head in the sand...Good luck!
You do realize that
every time--abso-fucking-lutely
every time someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being close minded and of having their head in the sand. Every time.
Think about that for a second. Let the irony sink in.
If we define open minded as an ability to entertain different perspectives and an ability to constructively speak with those you disagree with, then with God as my witness, I think you are the most close-minded person I've ever come across on the Internet. And that's saying a lot.
If we define open minded as a tenacious clinging to any perspective just because it conflicts with the most common one, just because it's on Youtube or prison-planet or Rense or god-know-what, then you're a fucking Buddha.
Quote from: "Amomynous"Quote from: "Zaka"Well FU for your response lw, I know that someone as closed minded as you appear to be, may prefer to bury your head in the sand...Good luck!
You do realize that every time--abso-fucking-lutely every time someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being close minded and of having their head in the sand. Every time.
Think about that for a second. Let the irony sink in.
Irie,
Well ya lost me about there!
Weird this ain't the first time we've been thru this old chestnut!Eh?
It was lw that said
QuoteSorry, zaka. I don't care to watch your links anymore.
I really couldn't give a shit if you bother to read or watch anything I post!
It's called freedom of choice! Just like if you choose to brush your teeth with rat poison. That's your choice!
Fuck it I'll say it just to make ya happy, I'm closed minded!
It still doesn't make sodium fluoride not rat poison!
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Z
Irie,
I think what lw was trying to get at was;
What are my personal experiences?
Well at the age of 7 about 1971'ish, I remember being given a shot of some really important vaccination(?), that everybody had to have in my school.
The next morning I remember getting out of bed & collapsing on the floor, paralyzed, after screaming for my mummy, she gave me a piggy back ride across the street to the doctors office, (where she happen to be working at the time), I remember asking the doctor at the time if it wasn't something to do with the jab? It was just dismissed by the doc, who then gave me some kinda orange flavored syrup & I spent the next two weeks home recovering!
What long term effects this might of had, I can't tell ya!
This was just one incident that happen to me, but I can tell you of a lot more that have happen to friends, family and love ones!
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Z
I was poisoned severely by the 1976 version of the swine flu jab. I was sick for months. My immune system was compromised severely. It took years to recover fully, if indeed I ever recovered from that shit.
I was young and lucky, some folks died from that vaccine, others spent their lives in wheelchairs because of it.
I have never taken another jab of any kind since.
Here's a link documenting that no studies of flu vaccines indicate any efficacy whatsoever in human health or flu prevention:
http://theintelhub.com/2010/09/02/evide ... -vaccines/ (http://theintelhub.com/2010/09/02/evidence-based-vaccinations-a-scientific-look-at-the-missing-science-behind-flu-season-vaccines/)
Irie Dendro,
It's fucked up that we don't even know what the bastards gave us! Maybe a nice cosy latent cancer virus??
Here's a sweet little tune;
[youtube:1xipvkoq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yG6WWspEIY[/youtube:1xipvkoq]
Respect,
Z
Quote from: "Bushpig"Hi VB,
I would consider looking into that more. There are many reasons for not taking a swine flu jab, there are many reasons why vaccination in general is not a good thing to be doing. Far too large a subject to delve into here suffice to say when you start looking it seems that the proposed benefits are not as described and the underestimated detrimental health issues are not highlighted enough. From my reading on the subject you soon find the scales of balance start to tip the other way.
BP
Mhmm, precisely. What got me on this path was the thought of "When in our human progression did we need to invent some injections that would "protect" us from diseases?" It seems that the intended use of vaccines is faar to reaching in this day and age, and I believe that with proper nutrition and supplementation where necessary with herbs and other plants, you will never have to fear disease..
I myself havent been sick in over a year; however, when I start to stray away from my healthy diet (My weaknesses are sugar, pizza, a good burger..) many times I can feel a disturbance coming on, as If I am about to get sick...then I return to my regular diet of veggies, fruits, nuts and herbs I am feeling tip top again. Go figure! :e_biggrin:
In any case, the case of vaccines should be looked at rather closely, especially for those pregnant, or with children...the mercury contained within many vaccines can and is believed to be able to trigger autism and other neurological damage in susceptible youngsters...be wary.
Quote from: "i<3Shrooms"Mhmm, precisely. What got me on this path was the thought of "When in our human progression did we need to invent some injections that would "protect" us from diseases?" It seems that the intended use of vaccines is faar to reaching in this day and age, and I believe that with proper nutrition and supplementation where necessary with herbs and other plants, you will never have to fear disease..
I myself havent been sick in over a year; however, when I start to stray away from my healthy diet (My weaknesses are sugar, pizza, a good burger..) many times I can feel a disturbance coming on, as If I am about to get sick...then I return to my regular diet of veggies, fruits, nuts and herbs I am feeling tip top again. Go figure! :e_biggrin:
In any case, the case of vaccines should be looked at rather closely, especially for those pregnant, or with children...the mercury contained within many vaccines can and is believed to be able to trigger autism and other neurological damage in susceptible youngsters...be wary.
Irie,
Yeah mon, that's what I'm talking about!
Essentially, An apple a day keeps the doctor at bay!
I've now reached the point where I don't buy hardly anything in a packet!!! Only buying raw foods at the market & preparing all meals at home....
I will not hardly ever eat-out...even at the many 5* hotels around here....
As for the autism, check out the link (CBS news) //http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20015982-10391695.html
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Z
Irie,
I can only hope my kids grow up to be like this kid!
[youtube:1zzs3hkk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Id9caYw-Y[/youtube:1zzs3hkk]
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Z
Irie,
//http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1321203/Experts-admit-swine-flu-jab-cause-deadly-nerve-disease.html
Well It's seems the "Experts" have admitted that the swine flu shot "may cause" a deadly nerve disease...
Fucking cool! I guess that's another one of those friggin "Conspiracy theories" that get debunked but are actually true....
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Z