Irie,
Prediction ; I gonna call this one.
Obama will come out saying, well yes he was born in Kenya and the MM are gonna say, It's cool no problem...Well change the rules. Cos he's such a good guy....
This will then lead the way for Arnold Schwarzenegger to jump in the next available election to be President of USA..
Where this all coming from....check out Martial Law Part 3...Alex Jones movie..
Please go and watch the film....Then let me know what you think.
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Z
I think he was born in Hawaii...but that would be totally funny if you were right!! :)
We would have to amend the constitution for Arnold. There was a movement to do that but the way he has screwed California they faded to the woodwork.
Arnold is a sore subject around here:my wife is a state employee.
what a bunch of BS :blaugh:
Irie,
Yeah I know! Crazzy talk!!
Did anyone actually see the movie?
It's OK, it's only a movie, nothing to worry about!
Has anyone seen the Backlash card from the Illuminati Card game???
I'm actually surprised that this subject seems to be in the MM currently? Complete coincidence!
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Z
Wait a minute.......
I just realized we prolly won't have long to wait on resolving this issue as well as all of the other little world order secrets currently being hid so cleverly out in the open for everyone to see. 2012 is coming! yeah, that's the ticket, jicket......
lw
Irie,
So I've seen this certificate that they've brought forward....looks well iffy! And the newspaper announcement?
I wonder how far I would get with these two bits of paper.....would this be enough to actually get citizenship? Driving license or anything? Let alone president!
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Z
SO now you are an expert on US legal documents, zaka? This attempt to discredit this president sounds retarded to me.
lw
Quote from: "laughingwillow"SO now you are an expert on US legal documents, zaka? This attempt to discredit this president sounds retarded to me.
lw
Irie LW,
No, I'm not an expert! That's why I asked!
It's a straight forward question!
I don't need to discredit anyone. I'll let them do it for themselves.....that goes for you too :e_wink:
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Z
Here's a good piece on the topic at hand, imo.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/18912 (http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/18912)
Obama's citizenship: Another loony conspiracy theory
July 29, 2009 - 6:56am.
By DOUG THOMPSON
In the loony world of conspiracy theory nutcases, anything is possible and the most ludicrous of claims too often get passed off as fact.
Case in point: The incredibly stupid debate over President Barack Obama's citizenship.
Started by the right wing in a failed effort to prevent America from electing its first African-American President, the so-called "birthers" movement -- fueled by hatemongers, racists, bigots and the incurably stupid -- continues to spread discredited lies that Obama was born in Kenya or some other non-American locale.
Our current President was born in Hawaii, an American territory that became our 50th state. Hawaii confirmed it and, for normal people with a working brain, that should have closed the case.
But conspiracy nuts don't have functioning brains. They have out-of-control fantasies, fed by terminal insanity, driven by inane beliefs that anything that involves the government is a dark, X-Files conspiracy to destroy us all.
I recently ordered a certified copy of my birth certificate from the state of Florida. They sent me a computer generated document that looks a lot like the one produced by Hawaii to confirm Obama's birth. I took that document to my local Social Security office and asked if that provides proof of birth and citizenship.
Yes, they said. It does.
But proof of birth will not satisfy the lunatic fringe when it comes to supporting the conspiracy du jour. They need to feed their lurid fantasies that Obama is a puppet of Saudi Arabia, a pawn of the mythical New World Order (otherwise known as NWO) or part of some Zionist conspiracy cooked up by anti-Semites to support their hate and bigotry.
Sadly, the Internet -- which could function as a medium for spreading real, fact-based information -- is a hotbed for half-baked conspiracy theories, hate, racism and outright lies. Those who question Obama's birthrate will claim they are not racist, but many of them are. You find misinformation about his birth certificate on many white supremacy web sites but you will not find one credible shred of evidence that supports the birther movement on a site devoted to hard, cold facts.
As an American, I have serious problems with some of Obama's policies. I feel he is pushing the country that I love too far to the left and spending this nation into irreversible debt.
But I do not, for one second, doubt his birthright.
He's an American.
Anyone who buys into the claims of the birthers is a gullible fool.
Irie,
Thank LW, for a intelligent response.
Shame it seems so slightly slanted.
But it's says that's all the paperwork you'd need.
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Z
Shame it seems slanted? The whole non-issue is slanted, imo.
McCain and his team went after proof that Obama wasn't an American. It was part of the process of trying to discredit the guy from the beginning. Unfortunately for McLame, all proof and evidence led to the conclusion that Obama was born in Hawaii. So the story should have died even before the election took place. And that should have been the end of this paranoid fantasy. (Even though McLame wasn't born in the US.)
But no. The "birthers" have to cling to their delusional fantasies even after the issue was settled by the officially proscribed methods years ago. Even after the birthers slanderous efforts have been repeatedly thrown out of courts.
And the delusional fantasy continues with your initial posting, imo......
lw
Z,
Is there a single conspiracy theory you don't believe in?
I'm asking seriously.
Quote from: "Amomynous"Z,
Is there a single conspiracy theory you don't believe in?
I'm asking seriously.
Irie,
Quick answer, The official 9/11 conspiracy!
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Z
Do you believe that there are "free energy" sources, but that "they" are suppressing them?
Do you believe that fluoride is a mind-control technology?
Do you believe that the government has information on UFOs but is hiding it?
Do you believe that there is a secret New World Order who runs things?
Do you believe in all manner of "covert operations?"
Do you believe that 911 was engineered by the US government to strengthen its control?
Do you believe that there is something "fishy" about the Apollo moon landings?
Do you believe that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and established a secret, ruling blood-line?
Do you believe that AIDS is an artificially created virus that was created for some agenda of control?
Do you believe that the official story of JFK's assassination is hiding things?
Can you say yes to many of these?
If so, you may want to ponder the embedded structure of the conspiracy per se more than the specifics of its content. Some people mistrust authority figures because of what they do and say, and some people mistrust them because the are authority figures.
Would you characterize your relationship with your parents as a close, good one?
Irie,
Check it out!
[youtube:2s2fnto6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI[/youtube:2s2fnto6]
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Z
I don't put much stock in most conspiracies I've studied.
Does that make me closed-minded?
Irie LW,
Try using Common Sense, a little discernment & read between the lines.
Always try to educate yourself.
This old dog always enjoy learning a new trick.
Just cos' you agree with someone on one issue does not mean that you have to agree with everything they may say.
Take David Icke, because he exposes insidious systems like Common Purpose, does not mean that you have to agree with his reptilian agenda......just hope he's wrong on that.
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Z
To be honest, I'm kind of put off by your advice, zaka. You seem to be saying that any intelligent, sane person would naturally come to the same conclusions you personally have reached concerning the conspiracies mentioned if they would only research the details of the incidents and then read between the lines. It appears that some (you included) see waaay more written between the lines than I do. And you have also written in another thread that anyone who doesn't agree with you on said conspiracies should check their sanity. While I disagree with you on this, I've never questioned your sanity due to your beliefs.
Let m give you a recent example.... In the thread about Andy's friend that turned into a comtrail debate, you linked a few stories and photos that proved absolutely nothing concerning the topic at hand, imo. One particular photo of a plane's wing explained in the caption that we were looking at an aerosol DETECTION set up on a plane's wing used to monitor aerosol levels. However, your explanation was that we were looking at an aerosol DELIVERY system mounted on the wing of said aircraft. I found nothing even slightly incriminating in any of the other linked stories either.
Coupling the above with your prediction in the first post of this thread leads me to believe that anon might be on to something concerning your attraction to conspiracies in general without digging too far into the details. Obama's birth certificate has been analyzed and authenticated by the proper authorities long ago. A quick search will confirm this. However, the "birthers" have chosen to disregard the conclusive evidence for what ever reason.
The real conspiracy, in this case is how the sour grapes republicans/racists have managed to keep this non-issue alive.
Please come back when you have more proof than what is to be found solely "reading between the lines."
On the other hand, the plane into the pentagon is one incident I don't really understand to this day. (I see no wing damage to the building nor debris and fail to understand how the nose piece of the aircraft in question could have pierced the inner walls like it reportedly did.
But what about the people on the plane that reportedly died in the crash?
lw
Irie LW,
Excuse fucking me!!!??
QuoteYou seem to be saying that any intelligent, sane person would naturally come to the same conclusions you personally have reached concerning the conspiracies mentioned if they would only research the details of the incidents and then read between the lines
Wow you read all that in to what I wrote? Seems you like to put words in peoples mouth!
Quotethat anyone who doesn't agree with you on said conspiracies should check their sanity
Again what I advised ; Tell him to sit down and watch Obama Deception with you.....
Then question your own sanity! Nowhere does it say that you have to agree with me? Seems you like to put words in peoples mouth again.
QuoteLet m give you a recent example.... In the thread about Andy's friend that turned into a comtrail debate, you linked a few stories and photos that proved absolutely nothing concerning the topic at hand, imo.
WTF From the first post in that thread
QuoteStuff like contrails, one world government, mind controll, 911conspiracy exc. it borders on psychosis
Hey Ave brought it up but again Seems you like to put words in peoples mouth.
QuoteHowever, your explanation was that we were looking at an aerosol DELIVERY system mounted on the wing of said aircraft. I found nothing even slightly incriminating in any of the other linked stories either.
If you're sitting under a coconut tree and I advise you not to sit there, a nut might fall. Would you tell me there ain't no such danger? Do so at your own risk! I'm not going to make you, but I guess I would have to administer first aid to you!
QuoteObama's birth certificate has been analyzed and authenticated by the proper authorities long ago. A quick search will confirm this. However, the "birthers" have chosen to disregard the conclusive evidence for what ever reason.
As I wrote I came to this conclusion after watching Martial Law Pt 3. Obama ain't in it! The birther hype talking point came up after I posted my prediction. Hey but if you're happy with your Govt good luck.
QuoteThe real conspiracy, in this case is how the sour grapes republicans/racists have managed to keep this non-issue alive.
Wow you really are stuck in some sort of strange paradigm, where republicans are racists and democrats are not?
You obviously never had to live with racism!
QuoteOn the other hand, the plane into the pentagon is one incident I don't really understand to this day. (I see no wing damage to the building nor debris and fail to understand how the nose piece of the aircraft in question could have pierced the inner walls like it reportedly did.
But what about the people on the plane that reportedly died in the crash?
I saw a good documentary on this, with the eye witnesses describing the event. Can't remember what it was called.
If I find it I'll post it for you.//http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5477955350625095031&ei=PSl0SvnNDcK4lQec-4xv&q=pentagon+attack+eyewitness&hl=en&client=firefox-a
Maybe that wasn't the best advice for you to read between the lines? Try joining the dots instead!
At least you've refrained from calling people You don't agree with, Morons & Retards. Defiantly raises the level of the conversation.
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Z
http://www.pensitoreview.com/ (http://www.pensitoreview.com/)
quote from linked article above: ....a new poll has found that Birthers are predominantly Republicans — no surprise there — and that the South leads all other regions by far as a hotbed of Birtherism .......
In the South, just 47 percent believe he is a citizen, 23 percent do not and 30 percent aren't sure........
But does this make the Birther movement racist at its core? Not necessarily. Racism is pervasive throughout the country, even if Birtherism is less so. On the other hand, polls and reports abound these days showing the GOP is shriveling into a party of old, white Southern men. The absence of people of color in the party demographics — especially in the South, where blacks tend to be more conservative than in other parts of the country — speaks volumes.
Still, the fact that Birthers are more prevalent in the states of the old Confederacy may explain why Birthers refused to be convinced by hard evidence that includes a certificate of live birth vouchsafed by the Republican governor of Hawaii, as well as the fact that birth announcements for Barack Obama Jr. appeared in both Honolulu newspapers a day or two after his birth in August 1961.
But facts don't matter to bigots. And this stubborn refusal to accept documentary evidence is the most convincing argument yet for the proposition that the Birther movement is a racist phenomenon at its core.
Irie LW,
Quite a few bare assertions there!
Racists aren't just white......I know a lot of black folks that hate whites just for the color of their skin.
I wonder what the stats of blacks that don't believe he was born in Hawaii. Would you class them as racists? Seem a bit of a cop out to regard anyone that doesn't agree with his policies, as a racist, as that article wants to. I guess they use less fluoride in the south? Am I a racist for even questioning it? Agreeing with the mainstream doesn't make it fact.
There's a whole country, Kenya, that believe he wasn't born in Hawaii....the majority are black. That's millions! Does that make them racists?
Quoteas the fact that birth announcements for Barack Obama Jr. appeared in both Honolulu newspapers a day or two after his birth in August 1961.
I'm glad you brought this one forward. I have questions over this legitimizing him as born in Hawaii. Just seems flimsy to me?
Is it so far out of the realms of possibility that the grandparents put this announcement in the paper because their daughter had a child in Kenya but they wanted to still be able to get him US citizenship and did this as a way to legitimize that claim? Fraud does happen! Even from well intentioned grandparents. Just think what you would do if it was your daughter, who had run off to Africa.
I don't know; Where were his parents married?
So I have also heard about how he was educate in Indonesia for 10 yrs for which you would have to be a citizen of that country. Hmmm?
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Z
You dont need conspiracy theories to discredit Obama, until he takes back control of the money supply and kicks out the privately owned fed, hes working for them not the people, it's simple..really, actions are what counts, and he does not seem to be doing anything of the things that really matter. Who cares about his citizenship,
Boooooshpig
Irie,
Bang on Bushpig....a nice concise summary.
As for who cares? What about foreign govts having the dirt on him. They'd be able to use (this) blackmail (not a racist slur) to get him to bow to their will. Hasn't this guy already bowed to all the powers of Europe and the Mid-east? I mean really, what would the founding fathers of thought of him bowing and groveling to the Queen?
So have you seen the Backlash Card? Prophetic, coincidence or manipulation? It's all too weird! //http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/isaacj313.htm
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Z
it's simple..really, actions are what counts, and he does not seem to be doing anything of the things that really matter.
Boooooshpig[/quote]
"Paul!" The Duke frowned at his son. "Knowing where the trap is - that is the first step in evading it. This is like single combat, Son, only on a larger scale - a feint within a feint within a feint... seemingly without end." --dune/frank herbert
Lord knows the heavens conspire and Heaven knows Lords conspire as well ..... - book of laughingwillow -
lw
Irie,
This looks a lot more like what I would consider the birth cert would look like.
//http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764
I guess time will tell? I really didn't think all this shit would happen so quickly after my first post!
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Z
"Paranoia is just another word for ignorance."
--Hunter S. Thomspon, Kingdom of Fear: Loathsome Secrets of a Star-crossed Child in the Final Days of the American Century
When did you become an expert on US birth certificates, zaka? I don't expect what you would expect necessarily has anything to do with reality.
This is a really stoopid non-issue, imo. The law has been followed. The official that had a direct obligation to verify the certificate of live birth has announced their findings. However, a group of what I consider ignorant sore losers has decided the general public needs to see the original certificate rather than following proscribed law.
lw
Quote from: "laughingwillow"When did you become an expert on US birth certificates, zaka? I don't expect what you would expect necessarily has anything to do with reality.
lw
Irie LW,
I not! I think I stated that somewhere before?
I do have 3 kids and know what the birth certificates in Ex-Colonial countries look like!
And it looks like That!
Seriously, do you buy, the cert from Hawaii, formatted in what looks to be Microsoft, with no signature or seal stamps.
Or this Kenya cert, in crappy old typewriter set, with signature and seal stamp.?
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Z
Seriously, I trust the state of Hawaii officials more than something that's been posted on the internet.
This is stoopid, imo.
lw
Quote from: "laughingwillow"This is a really stoopid non-issue, imo. The law has been followed. The official that had a direct obligation to verify the certificate of live birth has announced their findings.
So the LAW has been followed, ( screw the constitution!). Would this not open the door for old Arnie? He could say that this set the precedent for a non-natural born citizen, to be President.
QuoteHowever, a group of what I consider ignorant sore losers has decided the general public needs to see the original certificate rather than following proscribed law. lw
I thought they were all racists?
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Z
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Seriously, I trust the state of Hawaii officials more than something that's been posted on the internet.
This is stoopid, imo.
lw
Irie,
Stoopid is, as stoopid does!
I use to do a fair bit of antique dealing, (somewhat of an expert in fact!) & if I'm looking at an antique piece of furniture and it's got a modern stamp labeled "Ikea" under the seat & a guy is telling me it's a Burgatti original. I'm not going to buy it.
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Z
Irie,
So I found this today;
//http://mediamatters.org/blog/200908030001
But this article is giving me some issues?
Why do they contend that this must be fake because ;
QuoteThe document posted by WND purports to have been produced by the "Republic of Kenya" on February 17, 1964. But Kenya didn't even become a republic until December 12, 1964.
If you actually read the paper cutting they are going from it clearly state 1963??
Independence was achieved in 12th December 1963, and a republic was declared in 1964.
The mystery deepens.
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Z
Fun thing I saw on BoingBoing:
QuoteFirst, the hospital is Coast Provincial General Hospital (sometimes said to be Coast Province General Hospital), not Coast General Hospital.
Second, Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months. Third, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.
Fourth, Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.
Fifth, the number 47O44-- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44--he is the 44th president.
Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent. Seventh, would a nation with a large number of Muslims actually say "Christian name" (as opposed to name) on the birth certificate?
Eighth, his father (born in 1961) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.
Ninth, it was called the "Central Nyanza District," not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.
Very mysterious! Why would an authentic birth certificate have so many errors????????????????????????????????
Irie,
Digging a little deeper;
Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.
Deeper still; Kenyatta;
In 1961 and 1962, he led the KANU delegation to first and second Lancaster Conference in London where Kenya's independence constitution was negotiated.
Elections were then held in May 1963, pitting Kenyatta's KANU (Kenya African National Union- which advocated for Kenya to be a unitary state) against KADU (Kenya African Democratic Union- which advocated for Kenya to be an ethnic-federal state). KANU beat KADU by winning 83 seats out of 124. On June 1 1963, Kenyatta became prime minister of the autonomous Kenyan government, with the Queen of England through a governor remaining head of state. He consistently asked white settlers not to leave Kenya and supported reconciliation.
Kenyatta retained the role of prime minister after independence was declared on December 12, 1963.
On June 1, 1964, Kenyatta became President when he successfully had Parliament amend the Constitution to make Kenya a republic with his office becoming executive President: the head of State, head of Government, and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
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Z
Irie,
So check it out....Debunked?//http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106220
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Z
Irie,
Good one Mrs.Soetoro!
//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs
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Z
Leave Obama alone, he spent good money to keep his past hidden.
and the truth comes out...
My prediction: Low IQ scores.
lw
I agree, LW. Obama seems none too intelligent, no matter how well he cleans up.
Quote from: "dissident"I agree, LW. Obama seems none too intelligent, no matter how well he cleans up.
Irie Dis,
:bravo
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Z
So, I'm a bit confused. Are we will waiting for the constitutional amendment that allows Obama to be president, or has this, unbelievably, been overtaken by events?
Inquiring, tin-foil clad minds want to know!
Quote from: "Amomynous"So, I'm a bit confused. Are we will waiting for the constitutional amendment that allows Obama to be president, or has this, unbelievably, been overtaken by events?
Inquiring, tin-foil clad minds want to know!
Irie,
Which "Events" are you referring to?
Don't you hear the pages being ripped from your constitution?
Soon the revised constitution is gonna look like this;
"We the People, serve the Government!"
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Z
Quote from: "Zaka"Quote from: "Amomynous"So, I'm a bit confused. Are we will waiting for the constitutional amendment that allows Obama to be president, or has this, unbelievably, been overtaken by events?
Inquiring, tin-foil clad minds want to know!
Irie,
Which "Events" are you referring to?
Reality? The big yawn that the "birther" movement birthed?
QuoteDon't you hear the pages being ripped from your constitution?
Loudly and clearly, but that doesn't require any process of constitutional amendment. All it takes is a wilful ignoring of the constitution by the executive and legislative branches, and a willingness to interpret the constitution liberally by the judicial branch. We have all of those things currently. No amendments needed.
QuoteSoon the revised constitution is gonna look like this;
"We the People, serve the Government!"
"Soon" is a very fuzzy word. I would say we already have that, have had it for decades.
But in the context of predictions, "soon" is kind of like a get-out-of-jail-free card. You've made a lot of predictions on this board, and none of them would have been true, save for the fact that "soon" can mean anything you want it to mean.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 67021.aspx (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/13/2267021.aspx)
U.S. military officials tell NBC News that the U.S. Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he considers orders from President Obama to be "illegal."
Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president and commander-in-chief, because he believes (incorrectly) that Obama wasn't born in the United States.
Lakin refused this week to report to Fort Campbell, KY for deployment to Afghanistan, but instead showed up at the Pentagon, where he was confronted by his brigade Commander Col. Gordon Roberts, a Vietnam Medal of Honor recipient.
Lakin was informed by Roberts that he would face court martial, and his Pentagon building pass and government laptop computer were seized.
Irie,
"In an appearance Thursday night on the "Tonight Show" to promote a new documentary about gerrymandering, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger told Jay Leno that if the states were to ratify a constitutional amendment permitting foreign-born citizens to run for president, he'd throw his hat in the ring."
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Z
And as a Caleefornia native I say fuck you Arnold, eat shit and die.
Zaka, what is your point?????
Irie,
My point; OP
"Where this all coming from....check out Martial Law Part 3...Alex Jones movie..
Please go and watch the film....Then let me know what you think."
Now I hope you will take a look at the movie, also check out Police State 4, just released!
Then we can discuss!
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Z
Of course, there is no way zaka could possibly discuss this without the community watching the two movies he mentioned.
So a politician wants to run for president. So what? There is no news there.
But the guy can't run for president. So what? There is no news there.
Please don't expect me to sit through your movies. (There is no news there.)
Come back when your predictions come true rather than another movie is released that fans your flames of paranoia.
lw
Arnold is a particularly odious polititcian, he's got his hand in my families pocket for $750 a month, cause TJ gets 3 furlough days a month with no pay, but is expected to crank out the same amount of work, mostly cleaning up the mess left by high dollar outside IT contractors.
Caleeforneeia is a failed nation and Arnold had a lot to do with making it so, as did the first wave of "tax rebels".
Don't take my word for it, just take a drive on any of our freeways, or dodge the mentally ill homeless begging on our streets. Now they are trashing the Probation departments and Child protective Service.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the massive theft of CA energy consumer's megabillions by the Enron crowd also nail the coffin lid shut?
But yeah, Ahnold is hip deep in the NWO dip, he pals around with the highest ups. He is one of their tools, like Palin and Obama.
Come on, you didn't really think that I would buy any of this Punch and Judy show, didja?
:blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh:
Quote from: "dendro"Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the massive theft of CA energy consumer's megabillions by the Enron crowd also nail the coffin lid shut?
But yeah, Ahnold is hip deep in the NWO dip, he pals around with the highest ups. He is one of their tools, like Palin and Obama.
Come on, you didn't really think that I would buy any of this Punch and Judy show, didja?
:blaugh: :blaugh: :blaugh:
Irie Dendro,
I still keep coming back to the question "What's the Point"!
Here I am as close to paradise as one can get! Well you can see it from here!
But in the rear-view mirror I can see the freight train of tyranny careering up from behind me!
I feel like I'm having to explain the obvious to Miss South Carolina!
I would have thought that members on this board would be a tad more in touch with reality.
Some times I wonder if this forum shouldn't be called SpiritPhama, "Just take ya damn shot!"!!!
The other question "When is it going to happen?"
You better wake the fock up!!! It doesn't have to be! You need to get off ya ass and do some friggin research!
For the other sheeple that come on this forum regurgitating the BS propaganda being spouted from the Mainstream brainwashing, I wonder if they are not already on the trucks behind the freight train ...???
With all due Respects,
Z
"I still keep coming back to the question "What's the Point"!
Here I am as close to paradise as one can get! Well you can see it from here!
But in the rear-view mirror I can see the freight train of tyranny careering up from behind me!"
Could the answer to your question "What's the point?" be as simple as: don't look in the rear view? :tea:
Not trying to be glib. I realize you have a small child, and naturally you hope for the best possible life for your little one. Red Shield's brave new world is not one which we would wish for a loved one. I can relate...
But funny thing about freight trains, they just keep on a rollin. Sometimes, ya just gotta get out of the way.
Hey, isn't that a side road up ahead?
Maybe it's time to not just get close to, but to enter, paradise. Maybe in paradise the train will prove to be an inconsequential phantasm, of no real substance...
Maybe, in paradise, you will look ahead, seeing only the bright potential.
OK, hey, I'm a yogi and a utopian idealist. I sure as hell can't stop, or even influence, the big money. This crime family has pretty much had its way with USA, and most of the planet, as long as I can remember, which is back to 1948. So, having witnessed so much irrationality on the gross matter earth plane, you will perhaps forgive me for seeking the true being within. The utopia of tranquility.
If your little kid learns to live in the sea of peace, he can be spared much of the drama churning from the earth plane. And you can teach him.
So that's enuff from this old geezer. The responses you have seen from other members of this board, well, that's a whole nuther topic for another day. :bgrin:
Nighties... :bcool: :bgeek:
Irie,
QuoteHey, isn't that a side road up ahead?
Yeah I've taken my sideroad, thanks mate, have you found yours???
Sorry it's AJ again but he sums it up well....//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkSLeQX9JBg
And I love his impersonation of Arnie!
Good luck guys!
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Z
yeh I found mine, as you should know I suppose-if you've read any of my posts..
I was just trying to help. Sorry if I got in your way, won't happen again.
Irie,
Well fuck me sideways!
I just watched the Expendables last night & there is a scene with Sly, Bruce & Arnie in a church.
Bruce asks Sly what's his problem? Sly replies "He want to be President"! Arnie turns and smiles!
Talk about propaganda placement!
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Z
2 things. Arnold was born in Australia and he did a real horrible job as governor of my formerly great state of California.
Quote from: "JRL"2 things. Arnold was born in Australia and he did a real horrible job as governor of my formerly great state of California.
Irie JRL,
I think ya mean "Austrian"....
Yeah his father was a Nazi henchman too!
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Z
So much for your prediction, Zaka. Have you seen what "Alex" has to say about DMT lately?
All I can say is WTF????
I was gonna post that..^..he is batshit fucking nuts.
lmao
I was gonna quote pkeffect ^ and say -
Aren't we all?
But I'm too much of an old-fart Luddite to figure out how to make the "Insert Quote" button work...
As far as movies or TV go - you're not likely to find the real world there; even though they tell you so.
- Of course they say the plant teachers are only delusions too...so why are you listening?
Regards,
Genius Loci
Irie,
"FEC rules naturalized citizens are same as 'natural born' in presidential votes"
Go look it up!
Respect,
Z