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Title: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: japaholic on July 16, 2009, 12:21:49 PM
Anyone have any experiance growing autoflowering plants? I have some seed and was wondering if its worth my while. Can a 12" plant really be any good? :smoke1

Would love to hear from anyone who has grown autoflowering of any strain to hear about yeild etc etc

Thanks
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 16, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Sorry, mon. We don't get into self incrimination here. Maybe someone will answer in a pm.

lw
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: japaholic on July 16, 2009, 02:47:07 PM
... or someone from the Netherlands, Canada, Switzerland or even California??

There are places I am aware of where people can legally grow plants and talk about it without fear of persecution.
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 16, 2009, 04:48:40 PM
Understood. There are places that weed is legal. But this isn't a weed forum. Never has been.  Please go visit your local weed site and ask the question at the appropriate forum. Btw, do you see any other weed threads on these boards? But you want to be the first, eh?

lw
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: japaholic on July 17, 2009, 01:36:14 PM
So you discriminate against plants do you? I thought this was "Spirit PLANTS" boards. Isn't the genus cannabis sativa (and indica) a spirit plant? Hasn't it been used for 1000's of years even to the present day as a religious sacrement?

Perhaps you'd rather Muslims didn't come here or homosexuals. Same difference really.

I am interested in all psychoactive plants and believe they all have a purpose. I came here to these boards to discuss such.

Basically your telling me to F-%£ off elsewhere as my thoughts and opinions and questions are not as valid as your own.

Thats nice and friendly of you, very welcoming!! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it MON!! You patronising sod.
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: japaholic on July 17, 2009, 01:46:53 PM
FYI - if thats the callibre of people that are coming here I won't wait to be booted off the boards. I'll find somewhere with OPENMINDED people who are willing to discuss sacred plants regardless of the genus.

Laughing Willow - Your a sanctimonious, rude git.
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 17, 2009, 04:41:37 PM
I see....

lw
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: kemp on July 17, 2009, 08:18:49 PM
Come on.... LW merely stated that this forum never has been a place for discussion of cannabis.  He didn't say or imply that you, or anyone else are not welcome.

I don't really have a problem with the discussion of such, per say, but I think the reason we have shunned these kinds of threads, is that there are already hundreds of other forums that deal specifically with cannabis growing or consumption or whatever. They also tend to attract the kind of attention that we aren't looking for. I would say, if you need specific tips on such things, feel free to ask but you may or may not get the kind of reply you are looking for.

Please though, keep the name calling and accusations of discrimination out of our forums. We don't need it and won't tolerate it.   :smoke2:
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: Avery L. Breath on July 18, 2009, 12:54:49 AM
Quote from: "japaholic"sanctimonious, rude git.

Dang, I never get called any four bit words anymore.  How'd you rate LW?  cantankerous maybe, but a git?........ never.
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: dendro on July 18, 2009, 01:06:31 AM
Git!  Git!  Git!  Git!  !!! :blaugh:
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: Zaka on July 18, 2009, 07:24:23 AM
Quote from: "dendro"Git!  Git!  Git!  Git!  !!! :blaugh:
Irie,
Funny I just posted in a thread that I was a "Jammie Git", before I read this post... :cool2
As for inquiry about autoflowering, there should be enough info on the web...no point making a thread about it....ditch the plant and don't clone!!!
Respect
Z
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 18, 2009, 07:47:50 AM
LOL I just logged on to tell dude to ditch the weak assed genetics and forget cloning. The world doesn't need any more ruderalis genes floating around, imo.

lw
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: Zaka on July 18, 2009, 08:21:03 AM
Irie LW,
That's harsh ruderalis genes....
The guy is probably paying 50 quid for ten seeds....
Seems they consider this a desirable trait???LOL....or they're selling it as a feature????
Now that's fukedup!!
Respect
Z
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 18, 2009, 09:19:14 AM
zaka: Here's the beauty of the auto-flowering strains from a marketing stand point...

The plants can't be cloned. Make a cutting and it roots/flowers at the same time. No such thing as an auto-flower mother plant, as far as I know. So the marks are forced to come back to the seed dealers for more fuckdup genetics every season.

Meanwhile, out here on da prairie, a grower with an outdoor patch of sinsi hindu kush/ak-47 knows that any seed produced will prolly be a cross with the local wild auto flowering ruderalis and throw the seeds away in order to maintain genetic purity. The first cross is reported to be ok. However, the second generation of seeds produces the coveted strain japoholic desires and is considered junk not worthy of propagation.

lw
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: Zaka on July 18, 2009, 09:40:18 AM
Irie,
So these guys are with Monsanto???
Saw some round-up ready Paraguay Ganja seeds once........Which just kills me!!!
Respect
Z
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 19, 2009, 04:44:36 PM
F-R-E-E
that spells "free"
marijuana clones
are not for me

I saw the ad
on pot TV
and spent my money
on the ruderalis beans

now instead of rolling fly
and smoking phat -
my auto-flower/reefer-tek
is bunk and getting laughed at....
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: Amomynous on July 20, 2009, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: "laughingwillow"zaka: Here's the beauty of the auto-flowering strains from a marketing stand point...

The plants can't be cloned.

That sounds like something Monsanto would have come up with!

Kind of random question, though: When I grow plants (vegetables and the like), I like to use true-breading, heirloom varieties. Now, I don't know much about cannabis cultivation, but it seems like everyone uses hybrid genetics (and as LW points out, using hybrid seeds is kind of like selling your soul to the seedmen -- you become beholden to them).

Are there folks who use non hybrids, or has the marketing of hybrid genetics been complete?
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: laughingwillow on July 20, 2009, 09:16:39 AM
There are non hybrids available. Land race genetics of pure indica and sativa have been maintained. (Mexican, Thai, Afghani, Nepali, Etc)

However there is nothing wrong with the current state of cannabis, imo. The only genetic manipulation I don't like is the introduction of the basically non-active ruderalis genes into the indica/sativa strains to produce auto-flowering plants.

Most genetics available (with the exception of feminized strains) can be propagated by seed. And the commercial strains developed tend to be potent and not prone to producing hermaphrodites due to years of painstaking research and development.

However, I do get the impression that some seed producers and vendors may have an interest in passing off feminized seeds in order limit the number of male plants. While many growers don't question their luck at having 10 out of 10 seeds turn out female, others dislike the practice due ot the inability to propigate the strain by seed.

lw
Title: Re: Autoflowering Hindu Kush * AK47
Post by: jfurry on August 15, 2009, 01:21:23 PM
oh come on... dont ya love it when they flower out knee high. :e_wink: