Irie,
Just watching this vid....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl5mNLF2 ... 4C&index=0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl5mNLF2lSs&feature=PlayList&p=E99DC2A1789D0E4C&index=0)
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Sorry guys is gone...
I waited to long to watch it, it has been removed.
Yes...
And I will have to ask everyone that wants to post a video or a book or a link to something else to write a small reflection on what you yourself thought or felt when you saw, read, heard or whatever it. It is too easy to just spam a forum with a lot of "really cool stuff, maan", without giving a minute's or even second's thought to it.
Irie,
It's a shame that they,(the censor oppressors) pulled this vid. Maybe it was something they don't want you to know about????
It was dealing with the spirituality of water. Very interesting. I was discussing it on a post here somewhere, & thought it actually deserved it's own thread. Being it is soooo important to life. Hoping it might stimulate some interesting discussion.
The vid basically dealt with sending intention to water and it's effects....ie baptism.
Considering we are actually mostly made of water, what are the effects of intentions (prayers) on water, and by extension ourselves?
I have seen, with my own eyes, in real time, an Amerindian Shaman, send a blessing, in which he sprinkled water from a calabash bowl, on a baking hot day, 110 degrees in the shade, not a cloud in the sky, certainly no sign of rain, thousands of people there, some passing out from heat stroke. Within 15 min huge cloud rolled in and the heavens opened up. Thunder, lighting, the whole nine yards....Lasted about 4 hrs....everyone at the ceremony considered this as a good sign.
That was in Suriname. The most amazing & Magical country I've visited yet!
Anyone have any experiences???
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Quote from: "Zaka"Irie, It's a shame that they,(the censor oppressors) pulled this vid. Maybe it was something they don't want you to know about????
It sounds like Emoto's work, and you're being
way paranoid :) You can get his books at airport kiosks, and images of his water crystals adorn greeting cards, for Pete's sake. Censorship? Why would you just assume the worst, when all evidence contradicts it?
A much more likely explanation was that it was moved or taken down because someone claimed copyright violations (which happens a million times a day, and has nothing to do with censorship).
Irie Anon,
Maybe your right and maybe I'm just skeptical?
But as you say
QuoteYes, but who's going to hand us the truth behind Youtube?
Yes it had Emoto's work in it but it dealt with more in to religion.
As for his book being available at airport book stores..........I heard some ridiculous percentage of sheeple don't read books anymore.......
So what are your views on his work?
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Quote from: "Zaka"So what are your views on his work?
I think it has to be viewed as poetry/metaphor, and as such it's a beautiful work. But I don't think it can be viewed literally. If one were to look at it from a literally/objective viewpoint, I imagine it would fall apart. Poetry never survives the onslaught of reason -- they're different domains, and they should be treated as such.
Quote from: "Zaka"Irie,
It's a shame that they,(the censor oppressors) pulled this vid. Maybe it was something they don't want you to know about????
It was dealing with the spirituality of water. Very interesting. I was discussing it on a post here somewhere, & thought it actually deserved it's own thread. Being it is soooo important to life. Hoping it might stimulate some interesting discussion.
The vid basically dealt with sending intention to water and it's effects....ie baptism.
Considering we are actually mostly made of water, what are the effects of intentions (prayers) on water, and by extension ourselves?
I have seen, with my own eyes, in real time, an Amerindian Shaman, send a blessing, in which he sprinkled water from a calabash bowl, on a baking hot day, 110 degrees in the shade, not a cloud in the sky, certainly no sign of rain, thousands of people there, some passing out from heat stroke. Within 15 min huge cloud rolled in and the heavens opened up. Thunder, lighting, the whole nine yards....Lasted about 4 hrs....everyone at the ceremony considered this as a good sign.
That was in Suriname. The most amazing & Magical country I've visited yet!
Anyone have any experiences???
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Z
Well now, I was at a Grateful Dead show at cal expo and there was a thunderstorm(rare in the summer). So Bob Weir(always the magician) pointed up to the sky, 13,000 people(prolly half on acid) looked up. Pretty soon there was a big hole in the clouds and the sun shined through. After a while there was not a cloud in the sky.
A couple years back in some thread I said "well I saw the crowd at a Dead show stop the rain" And Brother lw came right back with "Cal Expo 1986"
Never underestimate the power of a few thousand monkees to change the agreement. We agreed that the show would go on.......
Quote from: "Amomynous"I think it has to be viewed as poetry/metaphor, and as such it's a beautiful work. But I don't think it can be viewed literally. If one were to look at it from a literally/objective viewpoint, I imagine it would fall apart. Poetry never survives the onslaught of reason -- they're different domains, and they should be treated as such.
Irie,
I was thinking about this the other night whilst sitting under the waterfall.
I not really getting this poetry/metaphor or literally/objective viewpoint.
The way I see it, water has the ability of conducting energy. For example electricity. No metaphor there!
So would it also have the ability of conducting other more subtle energies? i.e. thought/intention/frequency
I think Emoto's work (with controls etc), literally shows this.
The fact that some of the results are beautiful artistic designs are just the consequence of the intention imparted.
Artistic designs are seen throughout nature. Poetry is mostly an attempt to describe them.
Hey but what do I know? Hated poetry & never went to an art lesson.......I'm just a professional artist !
I heard about that GD gig........cool maan.
I had a similar experience one day in a crop circle (early 80's), on blue unicorns, but that has nothing to do with water, really.
I've on many occasions attempted to steer oncoming rain clouds away....& it seems to work many times.
Anyone else tried this? Have we got any Rain Dancers around?
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Quote from: "Zaka"I was thinking about this the other night whilst sitting under the waterfall.
I not really getting this poetry/metaphor or literally/objective viewpoint.
The way I see it, water has the ability of conducting energy. For example electricity. No metaphor there!
So would it also have the ability of conducting other more subtle energies? i.e. thought/intention/frequency
I think Emoto's work (with controls etc), literally shows this.
No controls, nothing literal.
Like all art, it tells us more about ourselves than about the materials used to create the art. It tells us about our beliefs and desires. It tells us about the mind set and the aesthetic decisions of the artist. Even the words chosen to utter... "love," "gratitude" ...speak of human values and meanings, not about the structure of liquids.
If one were to do this "objectively," design an experiment in the best practices of the scientific method, choose the words and prayers randomly, blind the pray-ers and the evaluators, it would fall apart. It always does, because that's what the process of blinding does.
And what does this tell us? Again, it just tells us about ourselves and our methods. The "subtle" (as you put it) exists within the human experience, not in water and earth and air. But it is only in buying into certain views of the world that this is a "bad thing." It is only by placing too much emphasis on some modes of perception and exploration that this becomes problematical, something to be resisted.
QuoteHey but what do I know? Hated poetry & never went to an art lesson.......I'm just a professional artist !
And I've always loved poetry, so much that I can't even touch a book of poetry anymore: it just destroys me too much.... But what do I know? I was trained as a scientist!
Irie,
Agreed, it's a shame he's such a pretentious artist and not a scientist. Guess that's what you get from going to art school!
A double blind would solve it....
But I still wonder if it's possible to energetically charge water, as it does have conductive aspects.
What do you think of Tesla's work?
The reason I wonder is that I've been studying the ancient amerindian culture and it's leading me in this direction.
As for "subtle" energies, I'm talking about crystals and positive vibrations (Maan)....You know crazy stuff like talking to your plants and them redacting..
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Irie,
Here's another link to a water vid about Emoto's work.//http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1328387
There's more to water than we think!
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Z
Nice! very soothing too
Quote from: "Zaka"What do you think of Tesla's work?
I'm not sure what you're asking. What part of Tesla's work?
I actually think there is much humor and irony in Tesla (the myth, not the man), especially in the way his name is often invoked. Cranks and quacks who are dissed by the mainstream like to liken themselves to him, totally ignoring the fact that Tesla was an utter media darling during much of his life and his every claim was accepted uncritically, at least in the mainstream media (and electrical engineering journals, for that matter)!
Irie,
Check it out, found this site a year or so ago. //http://www.documentarywire.com/category/video
Scroll down & you'll see a couple of documentaries about Tesla.
Whilst ya there, I highly recommend watching all the other films there.
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Irie,
Taking it a bit further water, crop circles, temple building & intent.
I'm just listening to a Whitley Strieber (Actually it's William Henry) interview with Freddy Silva.//http://www.unknowncountry.com/media/index_rev.phtml
This is what I'm talking about "Subtle Energy"...
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