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Title: Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2009, 12:58:56 PM
I decided to edit my posts because I don't like what I said.
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 16, 2009, 03:29:06 PM
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"I need some fruit plants!

I noticed in your list that you have left out two related fruits, one super sweet and the other not so super.

Here are the three names of Asian  fruit you did not mention:

langsat or lansa
and
lamyai or longai

Rambutan

Name these Fruits from Thailand.

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boomer2
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 16, 2009, 03:43:19 PM
Name this red hairy fruit:

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boomer2
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 16, 2009, 03:50:09 PM
Name This fruit also from Southeast Asia and Australia:

This is one of the sweetest fruits in the world.

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Here are two more fruits, the one on the left is not as sweet as the two images above.  The one on the right has warnings about it.

boomer2
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Zaka on January 16, 2009, 05:18:32 PM
Irie
Ain't that Lychee and some sort of Jack fruit......no idea as the sweet one..
Is the Lychee a vine?
Respect
Z
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 16, 2009, 09:06:44 PM
No Zaka,


None of those fruits I posted are lychee, but a few of them are related but in different families

I posted the local Thai names of three fruits above which Teo missed on his alleged want list.

But I was hoping he could identify the fruits he ask interest in.  Most or all of the ones I posted are legal in some states in the USA since a few are grown on different Islands in Hawaii.  I was allowed to bring seeds for my favorite fruit to Honolulu from Thailand but California confiscated a bag of Chinese pistachios which originally said on the package, manufactured and packaged in California because it is illegal to bring nuts into America from Asia.  But one of the fruits in my photos above, actually several of them are legal in Hawaii but not in California.

Also I went to Amsterdam a few years ago and stopped over in Chicago and on to Amsterdam.  I bought at the airport in Amsterdam, tulip seeds and bulbs, sold at the airport like Macademia nuts are in Hawaii and for some reason ourr plane was re routed into Washington D.C.

The last place in the word I ever wanted to be landing in.  Hm!  I wonder why?

And fricken customs steals my seeds and bulbs and tells me i cannot bring them into Washington D. C.

However, I later found out that it was not illegal to bring them into Illinois/

boomer2
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 19, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
IF anyone can name at least four of the fruits in the images I posted above, I would be happy to share with you a four inch print of a Cambodian Cubensis.

boomer2
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Zaka on January 19, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Darn Boomer,
That's an interesting offer.....
I'll actually have to investigate them ....instead of stabbing in the dark.....
I saw some of these fruits in Suriname a few years back......should have paid more attention....They have a large Indonesian population.....Great Country Though.......you can feel the magic there......really weird.
Respect
Z
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Theido on January 19, 2009, 08:41:40 PM
The white shelled fruit is a longan fruit. (good , but not my favourite of the lychee type fruits)

There is also some very normal fruits in this picture: Pineapple, apple, coconut..

The red hairy fruit is a Rambutan (very tasty)

The purple fruit with white innards is a Mangosteen (This is my absolute favourite fruit of all times)

The spikey fruit is a Durian which smells absolutely horrible (I personally dont like the taste eventhough its supposed to be good)


Theido
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 20, 2009, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: "Theido"The white shelled fruit is a longan fruit. (good , but not my favourite of the lychee type fruits)

There is also some very normal fruits in this picture: Pineapple, apple, coconut..

The red hairy fruit is a Rambutan (very tasty)

The purple fruit with white innards is a Mangosteen (This is my absolute favourite fruit of all times)

The spikey fruit is a Durian which smells absolutely horrible (I personally dont like the taste eventhough its supposed to be good)


Theido

Hi Theido,

at about 2 am last night, i typed up a really nice res[ponse toyour post and accidentally hit something on my keyboard inthe dark and deleted the whole message before I could post it.  It is now 5:50 am in the morn and I need a rest.  Will get back to you later.

Great job you did in responding.

more forthcoming,

have a shroomy day,

boomer2
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Kada on January 20, 2009, 10:00:13 AM
i have to agree, i cant stand durians!

are those longyan or lychee in your first few pics?

thailand have any cherimoya?  they are one of my favourites!  i am working on a brown fruit variety now, hope it breeds true :)


teo i have some of what you want, email me if you are interested.
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 23, 2009, 01:05:01 PM
Theido said:
QuoteThe white shelled fruit is a longan fruit. (good , but not my favourite of the lychee type fruits)

There is also some very normal fruits in this picture: Pineapple, apple, coconut..

The red hairy fruit is a Rambutan (very tasty)

The purple fruit with white innards is a Mangosteen (This is my absolute favourite fruit of all times)

The spikey fruit is a Durian which smells absolutely horrible (I personally dont like the taste eventhough its supposed to be good)

Theido

Hi again Theido,
You definitely win the giant Cambodian Angkor Wat spore print for identifying the above fruits form Southeast Asia, although I was hoping that the poser of the thread, Teo, would show more interest when he asks members for information and then doesn't respond back to the threads he creates.  I was a bit disappointed because I thought he was interested in fruits and seeds and yet he just made a lit of many fruits, but I also noticed many were not on his list.

Now, I am going to attempt to try to rewrite what I accidentally deleted the other day.  Hate that when it happens because I can never make it sound as good as I did in the first draft which was on the page until I hit some stupid key and do not know what I hit.

Well some of the fruits I did not really need an answer for such as the Bananas, Apples and Pineapples

The more important economic activities on Koh Samui include tourism, fishing, rice cultivation, and extensive copra production.

Coconut palms (Cocos nucifera), whichyou identified above blanket much of the interior from the hillocks right down to the beaches (approximately 2 million coconuts are currently shipped each month to Bangkok). In the 1980s, more than 3,000,000 coconuts were shipped to Bangkok and during the last 22 years or so, due to tourism, the trees have been cut to make way for new bungalow resorts.

In the first picture of fruits, the white shelled fruits you correctly identified in the lower left hand corner of the image are a member of the lychee family which I personally think are somewhat bitter.  In Thailand and most of Southeast Asia they are known as lamyai or longai (Euphoria longana).  The letter Y is pronounced as a J.  They are sold in cans int he Safeway stores in the international foods shelves.  I find it interesting that these somewhat slightly bitter tasting fruit with a twang were named Euphoria.

Directly to the right of the white shelled longan fruit are some really cool looking red hairy strawberry like fruits.  They are known as rambutan ((Nephelium lappaceum).  They too are related to lychee and I also find them to be somewhat of a bitter sweet flavor.  I exposed the inner fruit of the rambutan to how how it all resembles the others when opened to eat.

Now just directly above the white shelled longan fruit and to the left of the longan is my third all time favorite sweet fruit in the world.  Those are the brownish woodin' looking shelled fruits known as langsat or lansa (Lansium domesticum).  While easy to peel, they are sticky like some of the lychee types and are also related to lychee.  But the little wedged sections are so sweet.  I actually find these trees along  the outer edges of rice paddies in thick jungle foilage. The locals put plastic or paper bags over the fruits to keep the bugs out.

Now my all time favorite sweet fruit, even more so than mango which I love is Mancoot in Thai. In English it is mangosteen, to me, it is one of the sweetest tasting of all fruits I have ever had the pleasure of tasting.  Mancoot's Latin name is Garcinia mangostana.  The mancoot fruit is the purple fruit with the pulpy outer mass of pulp and the white grapefruit kind of sections in the middle. I call this my heavenly fruit.  Like a gift of sweetness from the gods.

I would like to share with you my joy of being turned on to this fruit.

Sometimes in foreign countries, people share food with tourists to see reactions (hot Mango dip for green mangoes, burns the you know what out of your throat and tongue).  The Thai like to watch your mouth for a reaction and then laugh.  And one thing I do not like is plantanas, a Latin American baked bananas in leaves.  Its like a poi texture and gummy and gluey at the same time.  Thai's also bake or cook on open grills with bananas wrapped in plant foliage.  One time a roadside vendor selling meals gave me a glass of coconut milk with what appeared to be green gummy bear textured worms, about 6-9 inches in length.  You drink, they slide down your throat like a sweet spaghetti noodle, and are made from rice.  very sweet. I took a chance and it was tasty as can be, but the effect was probably like a woman swallowing a wad of cum.  Not that I ever did that.

But the Mancoot (mangosteen).

I was taking my first hike in 1986 to the Hin Lad waterfalls, one of two waterfalls on Koh Samui.  This waterfall has layers of pools cascading down a riverbed and takes about 25 minutes to walk through the jungle to get there.  Little fishies nibble on the hair of your legs while sitting in the pool. It tickles.  The fishies are eating some kind of human parasitic plankton and do feed on your legs.  doesn't hurt.

Anyway, I was hiking and a Japanese girl was standing in the middle of the trail, about 19 or 20 and she was eating that beautiful purplish Mancoot Fruit pictured above.  For some reason I was curious as to what she was eating, and when I ask her, she replied," mancoot and then told me it was also known in Australia and other tropical locales as Mangosteen.  What blew my mind about this Japanese girl is that she grew up in England and had a full Michael Caine Cockney accent. It was so weird to listen to her talk with her slanted almond shaped eyes.  I mean this girl was beautiful.

I suppose I could compare her voice to that of Cindy Lauper's voice, which is strange, but she was Japanese, with an English accent.

How weird is that.  Well it was actually a really cool voice to listen to.  I remember once meeting an American woman living in Haight-Ashbury, who, as a child, grew up in Shanghai, China and spoke with a Chinese pidgin accent.  That was a really strange thing to watch. Met her on an acid trip in the sixties and she had a room in the tenderloin, actually a nice studio, and she decorated it with fishnets, crabbe traps, and it looked inside like a native Polynesian shack and then when she talked, it was like Mah Jong time on acid.

But back to Thailand, I was so delighted to experience a new taste in my life.

There are also Star fruits, Jackdaws, Kiwi, guava, passion fruit, and many others which I still not have eaten yet.  It's a mood thing.

Had a few more comments from my lost thread which I cannot recall.

Anyway.  Theido, pm me your address and send me a self addressed legal size envelope with at least 2 postage stamps and I will send you your free print.

I will give you my mailing addy when  you pm me.

Of course, the giant spiked lager fruits are known as durian or thurian (Durio zibethinus).  They are like the limburger cheese of fruits.  They stink like pig vomit but are tasty as hell.  Most hotels from Vietnam to India and from Bali and Singapore to India have signs saying no durian in Hotel Please.

Oh yeah, another cool thing I came across in Kuala Lumphur, Malaysia was a sign that said Hawaiian Sweet Corn.

However, it was corn grown in Thailand, then cooked on an open 50 gallon barrel (drum) and then the vendor would take the hot corn and dip it into a coconut milk liquid, shake it for a minute and swaub it with a butter brush (usually margarine and some kind of cheap vegetable oil to make it sweet.

Also, in Georgetown, on the island of Penang (which means Island of betel nuts), one of many Islands in the Polynesian  Pacific and Oceania which is in the shape of a turtle, I photographed a sign which read, "Abdul Jabar, Money Lender."

boomer2

Hope this makes sense
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Zaka on January 23, 2009, 05:51:58 PM
Irie Boomer,
Excellent post
Laughed my nuts off........the cum ting was almost too much!!!! :lol: think I might need psychiatric help after that!!!
I regularly have plantain for dinner not too much of it though, got trees all around the house some huge ones locally know as "Archorn" really nice shallow fried/saute....don't like them over cooked...
Another staple I have is Jamaican Ackee......great raw in a salad, or saute.
I'll have some "Cocouli" (Mormordica charantia) seeds soon..if anyone wants.....great medicine..I'll put them on my trade list.
I can get all sorts of fruit seeds.....just pm me...
If anyone from SE asia has a source for interesting fruit seeds please pm me.
Thanks Teo for starting this thread...
Respect
Z
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2009, 11:19:39 PM
Wow... so all those fruit attract Japanese flesh/plant eating betels?
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: Anonymous on January 23, 2009, 11:34:02 PM
Way Cool Boomer!
Title: Re: Looking forFruit plants or seeds.
Post by: boomer2 on January 24, 2009, 02:50:56 AM
Teo said
QuoteDude relax. I don't respond instantly.

Teo,

Do not insult my intelligence.

I am not a dude.  

I do not live or work on a ranch.

Several of those seeds you are looking for are sold in packets at garden shops.

Prickly pears are known in Hawaii as Pu'u'nini.  In English they are known as:

Prickly pears are also known as nopal or nopales.

boomer
Title: Re: Boomer's Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2009, 01:29:41 PM
Those Japanese flesh eating betels are pretty cool!
Title: Re: Boomer's Fruit
Post by: boomer2 on January 25, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"This is your thread now Boomer.

This what I'm going to do in every thread of mine that you make all these comments in.

I just wanted to trade some seeds and stuff...


You know Teo, everything I post in your threads I have been able to find answers for them in less then ten minutes of using google.

And as I told you, I am creating several web pages at my site devoted to your threads and posts.

You are so childish to remove your post from the thread you started that now the Thai fruit I posted make no sense to your deleted post from above..

And As I noted to you here and at another h site where you hang,  many of those fruit seeds you seek can be purchased from a cast majority of US Home and Garden Centers.  Especially all of the berry fruits yo inquired about.

So at my website, you will soon within a few weeks, find everyone of your threads and my responses to your queries about plant and entheogenic plant and drug information. Valid information with helpful information for you in regards to your threads and to which you paid no heed to or even looked at any of the suggestions, not only I have tried to share with you but what others have also posted for you and then you play a condescending game saying your sorry or you patronize me with a not very sincere apology.

Of course, weveryone who goes to my site, and I get over 100,000 people a month at my site, will read everything you have posted.

I even have threads of your from the fall of 2007 because even then, you have not changed a day since I first saved one of your threads where you specifically ask for mushroom information and when it was given to you, you played a game of doubt and questioned the validity of my scholarly responses to you given to me for you by some very well known scholars.

Of course, you probably do not even remember anything about what I am referring to, but I have your own words and pages of the threads and your continuous post repliess which made no sense whatsoever.

I told you I was going to build a section on my site about your lack of communication skills and now you remove your posts from the thread.  That really shows your age.

You really need to stop playing games with people on these forums Teo.  The members are here to learn and share, not create the same threads over and over in every forum or  spam for dozens of sites with vendors offering items when this site has its own  sponsors and vendors.
Title: Re: Boomer's Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2009, 09:07:16 PM
QuoteYou know Teo, everything I post in your threads I have been able to find answers for them in less then ten minutes of using google.

Its simple dude. Don't waste your time posting in my threads.

QuoteSo at my website, you will soon within a few weeks, find everyone of your threads and my responses to your queries about plant and entheogenic plant and drug information.

I don't go to your website.

I will be doing this to each and every single thread of mine which you add little snide remarks to.
Title: Re: Boomer's Fruit
Post by: dogbane26 on January 25, 2009, 09:26:17 PM
1. Lansones ( Lansium domesticum)
2. Rambutan
3. Mangosteen
4. Jackfruit

Lansones are really good I tried them when i was in the Phillipines. Rambutan is good too.   I never tried the other 2.
Title: Re: Boomer's Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2009, 01:24:38 PM
QuoteYou know Teo, everything I post in your threads I have been able to find answers for them in less then ten minutes of using google.

I wasn't even asking for information, I was asking about trading... I don't give a fuck if the info was on google. I wasn't looking for it! Whats your deal boomer?
Title: Re: Boomer's Fruit
Post by: boomer2 on January 27, 2009, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"
QuoteYou know Teo, everything I post in your threads I have been able to find answers for them in less then ten minutes of using google.

Its simple dude. Don't waste your time posting in my threads.

QuoteSo at my website, you will soon within a few weeks, find everyone of your threads and my responses to your queries about plant and entheogenic plant and drug information.

I don't go to your website.

I will be doing this to each and every single thread of mine which you add little snide remarks to.

Snide remarks. you send to me four pm messages and then the fifth one you call me an asshole.

This is pretty petty and an insult to Spirit Plants that you do not listen to anything others suggest to you to help you improve your knowledge about these entheogenic and other plants that you profess to love.  If shows just how you really are and what kind of a person you are.

You already proved that when you made a post declaring you were part Indian yet were unable to join the Native American Church because you cannot prove any Indian blood in you.

And We here also know that you are not a female.  No female anywhere behaves as you do or uses the language you use.

You do not have to look at anything on my site, but the hundreds of thousands of those who will look at my site will see and read the threads you made here and at other sites I saved over the years where you actually prove you do not know what you are talking about.  I suppose I might even add a section about you and your insulting methods of communication skills which you are definitely lacking in, and put you into my autobiography which will be published in 2010

Members here and at other sites where you post know all about you, and if you print false or misleading information, I will post in your threads where there is such data presented by you.

And have a shroomy day.

BEcause of you, I have also actually decided to create a new web-site called, "Mushroom John's: Other Entheogenic Plants and Drugs", with articles and Photographs by me of:

San Pedro,
Peyote,
Ayahuasca,
Yopo,
Opium: Pods, Plants, Seeds and finished products from Thailand, Users and Growers,
LSD,
Morning Glory Seeds, Flowers and Vines,
Baby Hawaiian Woodrose Seeds, Flowers and Vines,
Bufo Toads with 5-MEO-DMT,
Betel Nut,
Kratom: Leaves, flowers and seeds,
Datura,
Ganja: marijuana, hashish, charo, bhang, weeds budds and leaves and Thai fields,
Kava,
Knickknick,
Salvia divinorum,
tobacco,
And many others of which I studied and lectured on over the years

boomer2
Title: Re: Boomer's a Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2009, 12:25:24 PM
I guess they deleted my other thread...

But I said it in...

suck nuts
Title: Re: Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2009, 12:39:12 PM
Go ride a fucking bear or something! Don't you have anything better to do with you time!!!!
Title: Re: Fruit
Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2009, 12:13:31 PM
Mods do me favor and delete this entire thread.

I will ask for all threads boomer posts in or mine to be deleted or i will otherwise edit them so they dont make sense (if boomer posts in them)
Title: Re: Fruit
Post by: kemp on January 29, 2009, 12:17:38 PM
No Teo, we are disabling/banning your account though.

You were warned on many occasions and formally just yesterday.
Adios!   :smoke2:
Title: Re: Fruit
Post by: Avery L. Breath on January 30, 2009, 07:14:49 PM
What the!
Title: Re: Fruit
Post by: laughingwillow on January 31, 2009, 09:18:14 AM
Finally.........
Title: Re: Fruit
Post by: Avery L. Breath on January 31, 2009, 01:00:21 PM
apparently so......