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Any one have information on the interaction between Wellbutrin and the major sacraments??
I know SSRI's damp them way down, but what of wellbutrin?
I don't know about the interactions but I personally would be very afaid to ingest any sort of entheogen while on drugs of that nature. Who knows what it could do?
I would advise you do your best to discontinue the use of those type of drugs.
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Teo- With all due respect, you have no knowledge of me, my history, or my situation.
Your posts are becoming more and more presumptuous(sp?). I would be careful of calling yourself a "shaman", that is a title that needs to be well earned and maybe confered by someome else.
Just my opinion, but in the words of my friend Kenbone "Ya gots to know who you are partying with" and you seem oblivious.
Peace
QuoteYour posts are becoming more and more presumptuous(sp?). I would be careful of calling yourself a "shaman", that is a title that needs to be well earned and maybe confered by someome else.
We're all shamans dude.
QuoteWith all due respect, you have no knowledge of me, my history, or my situation.
I certainly don't never intended to indicate that I did... It seems to me this comment was meant to justify your use of anti-depressant drugs. I still disagree with their use and that is my opinion.
Did you look at the link I posted?
Rhodiola rosea was very very effect at treating my depression.
Caapi, Passion Flower and St.John's Wort are good natural MAOI anti-depressants and Sceletium tortuosum "Kanna" is a VERY effective natural SSRI botanical anti-depressant.
Theobroma cacao extract, Kava and Cannabis are also effective combatants of mild depression, and work extremely well for some people. Theobroma cacao is known to be a mild MAOI.
I urge anybody taking synthetic man-made anti-depressant drugs to give the above botanicals a try after a 1 month (31+ days) break from all drugs.
I think a couple entheogenic experiences are better than taking anything daily, including botanicals.
I think the goal for anybody with depression should be to find things that interst them and live a happy life without daily drug intake.
http://www.thekannashop.com/ (http://www.thekannashop.com/)
I didn't know Kanna was an anti-depressant?
I thought kava kava works for anxiety and to get off of alcohol.
Ive heard people that live where kava has been used for centuries have few alcohol related problems and most dont use alcohol.
I've had experience with presribed Zoloft at a medium high dosage (150 mg twice daily) and noticed no interaction with alcohol or 'da kine... As far as Wellbutrin: I asked to be switched from Zoloft to Wellbutrin because of sexual dysfunction issues, as well as Wellbutrins alleged anti smoking properties.. A couple days into Wellbutrin (don't remember dosage unit), I began getting stobe like visual as I moved my head and felt a sense of disconnection and unreality... For me, Salvia eradicated depression issues and if anything, heightened sexual performance and gratification.. Of course, in it's infinite wisdom, the Fl legislature has since made Sally illegal..... :roll:
Yes Salvia is amazing! Great!
Quote from: "JRL"Not sure if this is the right forum, feel free to move it.
Any one have information on the interaction between Wellbutrin and the major sacraments??
I know SSRI's damp them way down, but what of wellbutrin?
Well at least one sacrament -- ayahuasca -- is contraindicated with Wellbutrin. It should seriously be avoided. A major health crisis could arise if combined (at least in theory, I don't know that anyone has tried the test).
I am neither for or against man made medicines but I ask, what is the hatred for such medicines?
Syd, read this thread...
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Quote from: "senorsalvia"I've had experience with presribed Zoloft at a medium high dosage (150 mg twice daily) and noticed no interaction with alcohol or 'da kine... As far as Wellbutrin: I asked to be switched from Zoloft to Wellbutrin because of sexual dysfunction issues, as well as Wellbutrins alleged anti smoking properties.. A couple days into Wellbutrin (don't remember dosage unit), I began getting stobe like visual as I moved my head and felt a sense of disconnection and unreality... For me, Salvia eradicated depression issues and if anything, heightened sexual performance and gratification.. Of course, in it's infinite wisdom, the Fl legislature has since made Sally illegal..... :roll:
Were you coming off the Zoloft when you were ramping up the Wellbutrin? Because while doing that I had a lot of weird effects. Mostly I was dizzy and pissed off.
Amom- I defineitly know about the contraindication of maois and pretty much any psych drugs. My question was more about the potentiation or damping effects of ones that are not dangerous in combination.
And I am not sure why anyone thinks I HAVEN"T tried a multitude of herbs and supplements. While I am by no means a shaman (I don't think knowledge of herbs makes you one, it goes a lot deeper than that) I am fairly aquaintted with most of the natural remedies mentioned.
But I do have reason to believe that Wellbutrin potentiates PEA psychedelics, this is what I want to know more about.
I knew I was gonna get preached at, but I figured some noise is always gonna be there with the signal.
Teo- "Don't knock the way the other man swings" Neal Cassidy
Do I care if you "agree" with what I do or not? I got no time to worry about that. And I need no justifcation for ANYTHING I do. Am I gonna take your advice?? Over my research, my therapist and my doctor??
What do you think??
Psych meds in my case have enabled me to work out some serious issues in my life. At the time I started on them my well being was certainly in jeopardy. And I forsee doing without them at some point, but I may use them for the rest of my life, and I could live with that.
QuoteAnd I need no justifcation for ANYTHING I do.
You are totally correct. I wish you the best of luck! and if there is anything I can do to help, let me know!
I had been off Zoloft for several months, maybe even 6 months when I felt the need to go ask for some Wellbutrin/// BTW, the Wellbutrin did absolutely nothing to help me quit smoking.... I have done WellB and 5meo-dipt together back when that phenethylamine was legal and available..I never noticed anything..... Months later when WellB clean, I tried Foxy and it was just the same as when on WellB.........
I heard of someone tripping for twelve hours on 15 mgs of 2cb while on wellbutrin which is why I asked.
Did you have a hard time coming off Zoloft?
A far as a hard time leaving Zoloft: Well, I was going through a pretty traumatic girlfriend leaves me for my best pal kinda thing, so I was into some pretty morbid and depressed outlooks... Dropping Z cold turkey was prolly not the best way I could have approached things.. I felt very anxious, almost hyperactive.. I took a fair amount of hours each day contemplating suicide, but decided my bro and the gal would not be moved one way or another by such action, and so, therefore I sucked it up and plodded along :roll: --- The come off from Z seemed to take about 4 days for me...
Now...My Monkeys Uncle is familiar with this very combination and found it (Wellbutrin+2c) not to be affected much at all.
Tread with a little caution the first few times but know your not entirely in uncharted waters.
Lizzy