Ayahuasca MAOI Diet-
Within 33 days of and 33 days after-
ALL medications, vitamins and/or other drugs
Protein bars or extracts
Aged Cheese and other fermented edibles and drinks
Migraine medicines
MAOIs, SSRIs and any other anti-depressants
O.T.C. cold medicines, Decongestants, Asprin, Allergy, Asthma etc.
Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine
Yohimbe, St.John's Wort, Rhodiola and other herbal medications
Sedatives- Sleeping Pills, Tranquilizers, etc.
Diet pills, Appetite suppressants, etc.
Narcotics- Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, etc.
Allergy or Asthma Medication
All types of Opiates- Opium, Valium, Oxycotton, Hydrocodone
Any other type MAO inhibitor
Within 7 days of and 7 days after-
Same as above+
All drugs and alcohol (Including Alcohol, Tobacco, Caffeine, EVERYTHING)
Herbal medinicals and psychoactives of all sorts
Any tyrosine-containing food
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Broad (Fava) bean pods
Soy Sauce and Miso soup
Avocados
Pickled edibles- Pickled pigs feet, pickled eggs, pickles.
Non-alcoholic brewed (Fermented) beverages (non-alcoholic beer), etc.
Kombucha; All other fermented brewed drinks.
Protein bars or extracts
Aged cheese
High amounts of sugar, Chocolate, Cocoa nibs, other stimulants, etc.
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.
Within 3 days of and 3 after-
Same as above+
Began Fasting
All drugs and alcohol
Kombucha, Beer and/or other fermented beverages
Bananas
All Dairy products
Dried Fruits (Raisins, Dates, etc.)
Chocolate
Dill, Parsley, Fennel and other strong spices.
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Avocados
Cultured dairy products (buttermilk, yogurt, cheeses and sour cream)
All Caffeine products (Coffee, Black or Oolong Tea, Energy Drinks, Ect.)
Soy Sauce
Spinach
Nuts- Peanuts, Walnuts, Pecans, etc.
High Protein Meals, Beef soup, steaks, etc.
Sausage, Bologna, Pepperoni, Liver and Salami (Pork)
Sauerkraut, Mayo’, Sourcream, etc.
Shrimp, Lobster and Crayfish
Yeast and other mirco-organisms (unless baked)
Salts, Sugars, Oils and Fats
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.
Within 36 hours of and 36 hours after-
Same as above+
Perform Detox, cleanse the body.
Meditate, empty the mind and relax.
No meat or ingestion of any sort of living creature.
Absolute no candy, sugar, fats, oils, salt and/or spices.
No sex or masturbation.
Take a long bath or shower; Paint yourself Blue.
Drink nothing but water.
Contemplate the experience.
33-7 hours before-
Same as above + No food (One light meal of fresh fruit or rice may be eaten during this period)
3-1 hours before-
Same as above + No water or other drink (One small glass of water may be drank)
5-15m before-
Prepare a snack of fresh fruit and wild or white rice with butter and oil.
Pre-roll a small joint, prepare the area, make sure everything is ready.
Release all bodily waste and fluids.
Shake/stir Ayahuasca before use.
The Trip-
Drink Aya’ quickly along with a small glass of water, if desired.
Attempt to keep Aya’ down at least 1-2 hour, or as long as you can.
Ingest mint and/or ginger (Anti-nausea) if desired.
Smoke cannabis (Anti-nausea) if desired.
Consume the MAOI safe food, if desired.
Run around naked and make strange noises.
Be sure to drink a glass of water or juice to re-hydrate yourself after 1-2 hours or just after the purge.
Some good things to eat during the strictest periods of dieting are-
Plain white rice, wild rice, etc.
Freshly caught fish (Never frozen or out-dated)
Fresh Raw Fruits and Vegetables
How to Detox-
Sweat-Lodge
Herbal Enema
Pumice and Soap Scrubs, Hot Showers/Baths
Lots of Exersice
Ingestion of "Detox" herbals- Reishi mushrooms, Kombucha, Green/White Teas, Cranberry Juice, etc. (anybody know of anymore?)
Waxing or Removal of Body Hair
*Notes-
Brewed Ayahuasca does not keep long, use a brew within 7 days.
White and Yellow Caapis should be used for those who are inexperienced.
Red and Black Caapis are reserved for seasoned trippers.
For the first session take only Caapi, everybody throws up their first time, this is the cleansing of the body. Once the body is cleased with the Caapi brew and resulting purge, the true Ayahuasca (Caapi + Psychotria) may be drank if the person feels ready. After a few Ayahuasca (Caapi + Psychotria) sessions Oco' Yage Ayahuasca may be brewed (Caapi + Diplopterys)
Ayahuasca is best used in rapid succession (3 times in a week) and then abstained from awhile to comtemplate the experience, then again in a month or more... This is true because the cleasing process works best if multiple sessions occur.
That is a really strict regimen, Teotzlcoatl. No cheese for a month before or afterwards? No protien bars, decongestants and so on? Well, you have certainly covered all the bases. I think if someone follows your advice they will have a better trip and little to no risk of side effects, assuming they take the right stuff for ayahuasca.
I've found that eating before doing something like that tends to make it slower to happen. You can fast for 3 days or just take it in the morning with no breakfast and do almost as well. "Paint yourself Blue"??? OK, I think that might be a joke but most of the rest sounds reasonable if somewhat difficult to follow.
You have posted a lot of material lately, some very good material. It will take us a while to digest it all. I'm glad to see you aboard, keep up the good work.
That means ALOT, thank you!
I meant no old stinky aged cheeses like bre' for a month, other cheeses you need only abstain from for 3 days.
I DEF. have all the possible interactions covered, I think this would make for a great detox and a great trip!
I'm semi-serious about painting yourself blue! It represents a trasformation, and nothing could be tripper than standin' in the forest with your friends butt-ass-naked, trippin' balls, dancing around a fire, painted completely blue!!!
*updated*
do whatever you feel is good, but I tell you IMO this is absolutely unnecessary
pharmacologically there are no risks of interactions of MAOIs from caapi or syrian rue and tyramine containing food. First of all tyramine is quickly metabolized. Secondly, b-carbolines are reversible mao-a inhibitors, while tyramine is metabolized by mao-b.
Im not just talking out of my own opinion, I can link you to scientific papers about this (just too lazy right now haha)
now, what is important is just a general good sense, respect for your body and respect for the deep experience you will be a part of. if you are an asshole to your family just before the experience, it will most likely influence your experience and you will maybe get a ´slap in the face´ from ayahuasca for your mistakes.. In the same way, if you eat very badly in general, I think it also shows in your experience, not because of tyramine but because of just being unhealthy and disharmonious
No I believe you, no need to link me.
It's more of a mind thing... ya know?
I still liking going with no tyramine for awhile for Caapi anyways.
I'v allways avoided tyramine. I'v read in a couple of places that it has the potential to create an extream rise in vascular pressure, in the dome.
(brain burst!)...(sorry for bad spelling.) I think that alot of the triditional dieting had more to do with energetic purity than it had to do with un-checked protien
up-take. Certainly not entirely...
I allways eat one handfull of wild rice and a clove of garlic a day(nothing els but water) , while sitting just about still, all day, in a place im comfortable die'ng in, for three days. Three days in i stop eating. On the sixth day i eat a handfull of rice(at sunset), then drink THE DRINK
An hour later(roughly, I dont bring any clocks), seems dandy!
Realy, the more particularly deperate you are, the closer you are to being ready.
when you are weakened phisicaly, you are more humble, and sensitive to spirit. The more humble you are the more receptive to TRUTH you are. or so i'v thought, thats just my expierence though...
"Tripping Balls" has nothing to do with it..
peace, ~S-N~
Hmm... sounds good...
Anybody got anymore tips?
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"Anybody got anymore tips?
Well, it's important to distinguish between a diet meant to insure physical safely and one that is undertaken for spiritual purposes. You seem to have conflated them in your mind a but, calling the a "MAOI" diet at times, and then saying it's more for the mind.
As far as physical safety goes, this diet would seem to provide it, but as was pointed out it really is overkill. Unless on is on some long-acting medication, 24 hours on either side of a ceremony will provide safety. Actually, I follow a low tyramine diet for 8-12 hours (following it on the day of a ceremony and through about lunch the day after, but I am not sensitive to dietary interactions. To be sure, 24 hours would be a good time, until one know one's sensitivities).
But as far a spiritual or psychological benefits, this diet (seems to me) to be 180 degrees out of phase with what one should strive to accomplish. Following a spiritual
dieta is common among the people who use ayahuasca, but the intent of such a diet is to minimize distraction and allow one to focus on the core of the experience. As such is is all about
simplifications. Simple foods; simple menus; simple tastes.
The diet you propose is very complex and has many rules. Instead of providing a simplification, it probably complicates things and creates more distractions than it cures. A rule of thumb for constructing a diet should be
make it so simple you don't have to think about it. A good diet should have four rules, not 40. The classic
dieta of the indigenous peoples can vary somewhat, but for the most part can be summed up as "no pork, no salt, no spice, no sex." Four simple rules.
Remember, the diet is about simplification and allowing us to
transcend our obsession on food. It should not
be an obsession on food.
A few other points...
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"*Notes-
Brewed Ayahuasca does not keep long, use a brew within 7 days.
Not necessarily true. Brewed tea is kept for quite a time in the jungle (it will bubble and ferment, though). In a fridge, I don't see why it wouldn't last a month. In a freezer it will last years.
QuoteWhite and Yellow Caapis should be used for those who are inexperienced.
Red and Black Caapis are reserved for seasoned trippers.
There are no hard-and-fast rules here. There are differences between white, cielo, and red caapi, but there are also similarities (I haven't had black so I can't speak from experience). Yes, if you have it cielo is good to start, but there is no reason, for example, not to use red. Yes, the "trip" is a bit different, but it isn't necessarily stronger
QuoteFor the first session take only Caapi, everybody throws up their first time, this is the cleansing of the body.
Huh?
Not everyone throws up the first time, or any particular subsequent time. Vomiting is common, but not assured, and the way you have the above phrased makes it sound as if it is a simple physical cleansing to be had and gotten beyond. This is not true. Speaking personally I rarely purged the first few years I was drinking the tea (maybe once in three years), now I always do, and it has nothing to do with the physical cleanliness of the body (I'm actually better off that way now than I was when I started drinking. Hell, in my last ceremony [this weekend] I purged twice, which is more purging in one ceremony than in three years of drinking). Purging is very complex and involved physiology, psychology, and even spirituality. It is best to accept the fact that every time you drink you may (or may not) purge, and to plan accordingly.
QuoteOnce the body is cleased with the Caapi brew and resulting purge, the true Ayahuasca (Caapi + Psychotria) may be drank if the person feels ready. After a few Ayahuasca (Caapi + Psychotria) sessions Oco' Yage Ayahuasca may be brewed (Caapi + Diplopterys)
Chaliponga in no more "advanced" than chacruna, in my experience.
QuoteAyahuasca is best used in rapid succession (3 times in a week) and then abstained from awhile to comtemplate the experience, then again in a month or more... This is true because the cleasing process works best if multiple sessions occur.
To quote a previous comment, huh?
Really Teo, where do you come up with this suff? :) It seems like you just read a bunch or random stuff, mash it all up in your mind, and then write it down!
Thanks for the comments.
Anymore tips? Suggestions?
Brewed ayahuasca can last for months in a fridge.
Bushpig
properly mark it tho when storing it in the fridge or someone might think its pot roast!
Quote from: "Syd"properly mark it tho when storing it in the fridge or someone might think its pot roast!
If your tea tastes good enough that accidental ingestion is possible, I need your recipe!
Hiya all'
Avoid salt in your diet' you shall have serious hypertension/raised blood pressure'
Also be careful of magerines' in the past they have given me a slight headache after the journey'
For myself I stick to white rice' a little fresh white fish or chicken' fruits' fresh spinach/cabbage and plenty of spring water'
La Purge is a psychological spiritual thing' so only having a little fluid in the stomach before journeying helps greatly with absorbtion of the Aya' plus also' why waste good food :)))
Tobacco is no problem' we puff lots of Mapacho whilst journeying'
I would also suggest folks get Florida Water and cleanse yourself before' during and after the journey' it dispells any negatives and brings clarity to the visions'
Much Blessings
Nobunoni +
It is possible to make very sweet clear bitter tea'
Bottle your Aya and let it settle in the fridge' the longer the better'
All the sediments fall to the bottom of the bottle' the aya then becomes very clear'
Aya becomer stronger the longer you let it sit'
If you are gong to be keeping it for a while in the fridge' add a spoonful of white wine vinigar' this shall stop your Aya from going off'
Always boil reduce before use' and drink your tea warm'
The lack of sediments in no way detracts from the experience' infact it makes for a smoother less nausious experience'
Clean your Vine of all the bark first' unless you wish to seriously purge'
Chagropanga is an art' unlike Chacruna' it takes great skill to become aquainted with this plant'
2 grams of Mimosa Hostilis root bark added to your Chagropanga shall add a great push to your brews also'
Let it settle in the fridge' then decant' the tannins of Mimosa are no so hard on the stomach then'
Safe awesome journeys'
Nobunoni +
A good little guide'
http://www.headaches.org/pdf/Diet.pdf (http://www.headaches.org/pdf/Diet.pdf)
Bliss
Nobunoni +