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Plant Matters => The Medicine Lodge => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 11:38:20 AM

Title: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 11:38:20 AM
Once but a wee cactus covered dragon, Teotzlcoatl has grown into a huge Peyote covered sky serpent...

Behold the magical cacti!!!

Lophophora-

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Ayahuasca plants- Caapi and Psychotria-

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Tobacco plot-

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Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
Cactus Soil-

Sifted and Washed Coarse Sand
Coarse Pumice
Coarse Perlite
Rich Dark Soil
Organic Cactus Fertilizer

For Trichocereus-

Sifted and Washed Coarse Sand ~ 15%
Coarse Pumice ~ 15%
Coarse Perlite ~ 15%
Rich Dark Soil ~ 50%
Organic Cactus Fertilizer ~ 15%

For “Peyotes”-

Sifted and Washed Coarse Sand ~ 15%
Coarse Pumice ~ 15%
Coarse Perlite ~ 20%
Rich Dark Soil ~ 45%
Organic Cactus Fertilizer ~ 5%




(Amounts vary depending on species, try to create a soil make-up that mimics a specimens natural habitat.)



Organic Cactus Fertilizer-

Wood Ashes
Composted Leafs
Horse, Goat, Cow or Sheep Manure
Gypsum (small amounts)
Composted Tea and Coffee
Bonemeal
Ground Hoof and Horn (small amounts)
Urine
Earthworm Castings
Bat Guano
Lake or River Silt
Crushed Quartz
Egg Shells
Fish meal (small amounts)
Seaweed meal
Crushed Shells
Crushed Limestone (small amounts)
Cactus Clippings- skin, spines, etc.
Coco Coir
Live Worms


Instructions- Allow all the material to decompose for at least 3 months. Then bake.





Notes- Study what trace elements and minerals exist in each species habitats and add them accordingly.



List of Minerals and Trace Elements to add to Each Species-

Aztekium and Turbinicarpus need gypsum.


Cactus Tools-
Thick Leather Gloves
Medium sized Saw
Knife
Razor Blades(For Removing rot, grafting, etc.)
Sifter (For Washing and Sifting Sand)
Spoon or Small Shovel
Small Brush(For transferring Pollen)



Rooting Cacti-

Trichocereus-

Place the cuttings upright in dry soil until they put out roots, then began watering as normal.


“Peyotes”-

Lophophora has been known to root well in Coco-coir.
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:47:32 PM
Essential Entheogens-

Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Oco’ Yage” or “Ayahuasca
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Ipomoea violacea ~ “Tlitliltzin”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Argyreia nervosa ~ “Woodrose”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sinicuichi” or “Sun-Opener”
Mimosa hostilis ~ “Jurema”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Scared Lotus”


Essential Psychoactives-

Passiflora incarnata ~ “Passion-Flower”
Erythroxylum spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus”
Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium Poppies”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Mitragyna speciosa ~ “Kratom”
Myristica fragrans ~ “Nutmeg”
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Ways”
Calea zacatechichi ~ “Bitter Dream Herb”
Catha edulis ~ “Khat”
Areca catechu and Piper betle ~ "Betel Nut" and “Betel Leaf”
Leonotis leonurus ~ “Wild Dagga”
Sceletium tortuosum ~ “Kanna”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”




Essential Ethnobotanicals-
Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Humulus lupulus ~ “Hops”
Theobroma cacao ~ “Cacao”or “Cocoa” or “Chocolate”
Ilex Paraguariensis ~ “Yerba Mate”
Ephedra spp. ~ “Ma Huang”
Lactuca virosa ~ “Wild Lettuce Opium”
Scutellaria lateriflora ~ “Skullcap”
Pausinystalia yohimbe ~ “Yohimbe”
Artemisia absinthium ~ “Wormwood”
Aspalathus linearis ~ “Rooibos”
Leonurus sibiricus ~ “Motherwort”
Canavalia maritima
Sida acuta
Zornia latifolia
Verbascum blattaria ~ "Moth Mullein"
Lobelia inflata ~ "Indian Tobacco"



Essential Medicinals-
~Polygala sibirica and Polygala tenuifolia "Taoist Memory enhancer"
Panax spp. ~ “Ginseng”
Gingko biloba ~ “Gingko”
Rholdia rosea ~ “Golden Root”
Valeriana officinalis ~ “Valerian Root”
Verbena hastate “Blue Vervain”
Osha Root
Yerbe Santa


Essential Edibles-



My Personal Specimens-


Harvestable Specimens- Are intended to be grown quickly yet potently, and harvested for use. They specimens should have quality genetics, be grown properly and should be harvested and cured correctly to ensure potency.

Lactuca virosa
Banisteriopsis caapi “cielo”
Psychotria viridis
Passiflora incarnata
Psilocybian Mushrooms*
Salvia divinorum
Argyreia Nervosa, Rivea corymbosa and/or Ipomoea violacea
Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and/or Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera)
Potent Trichocereus spp. pachanoi; peruvianus; macrogonus
Erythroxylum novogranatense
Cannabis sativa*
Nicotiana spp. “Low nicotine, High flavor”
Mitragyna speciosa “Red vein”
Humulus lupulus (For Beer Brewing)
Camellia sinensis
Vanilla planifolia
Theobroma cacao
Ilex Paraguariensis
Ephedra spp. ~ “Ma Huang”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”
Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium Poppies” *
Panax spp. ~ “Ginseng”




Botanical Preservation Specimens- Are grown slowly, potently and are intended to preserve the species. Harvest is optional if the plants should need to be trimmed or the like. These specimens should have the best genetics and should be keep as pristine and blemish free as possible.

Trichocereus macrogonus; peruvianus; pachanoi; bridgesii and terschecki (Purest strains possible)
Trichocereus spp. “Rare Species”- riomizquensis; huanucoensis; scopulicolus
Trichocereus spp. “Cactus of the Four-Winds” (Potent, Four-ribs, Genetically stable)
Trichocereus bridgesii var. monstrose “clustering”
Trichocereus spp. “Legendary Peruvianus” (Sky blue skin, Long red spines and Potent)
Lophophora williamsii*
Silene capensis
Calea zacatechichi
Diplopterys cabrerana
Catha edulis*
Rivea corymbosa
Tabernanthe iboga*
Quararibea funebris ~ “Cacahuaxochitl”





Psychoactive and/or medicinal Cacti-

Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus fissuratus
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus
Ariocarpus retusus
Astrophytum asterias
Astrophytum myriostigma
Aztekium ritterii
Carnegiea gigantea
Coryphantha compacta
Coryphantha elephantidens
Coryphantha macromeris
Echinocactus platyacanthus (Echinocactus visnaga)
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus (Echinocereus scheeri)
Echinocereus polyacanthus
Epithalantha micromeris
Lophophora williamsii
Lophophora diffusa
Mammillaria grahamii; micromeris; heyderi; spp.
Mammillaria (Dolichothele) longimamma
Mammillaria pectinifera (Solisia pectinata)
Mammillaria (Mamillopsis) senilis
Mammillaria sonorensis (Mammillaria craigii)
Matucana madisoniorum
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Obregonia denegrii
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
Pachycereus pringlei
Pelecyphora aselliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)
Trichocereus species
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:47:59 PM
Arguing with a woman, is like trying to blow out a light bulb.




Tell Bush, Jesus is back and he's pissed!!





A young student of Lao Tzu’s once asked-

“What is Tao?”


“Shut the fuck up”

-The old sage chuckled.
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:48:20 PM
Comprehensive list of Peyotes-

Ariocarpus agavoides
A. fissuratus
A. kotschoubeyanus
A. retusus
Armatocereus laetus
Astrophytum asterias
A. capricorne
A. myriostigma
Aztekium ritterii
Coryphantha compacta
C. elephantidens
C. macromeris
C. palmerii
C. rosea
Dolichothele longimamma
Epithalantha micromeris
Gymnocalycium spp.
Leuchtenbergia principis
Lophophora williamsii
Lophophora diffusa
Mammillaria spp.
Mammillaria craigii
M. grahamii
M. heydeii
Mamillopsis senilis
Obregonia denegrii
Pelecyphora aselliformis
P. pseudopectinata
Solisia pectinata
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
T. pseudopectinatus


Comprehensive list of Psychoactive Cacti-


Carnegiea gigantea
Echinocactus spp.
Echinocactus grandis
E. grusonii
E. visnaga
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus
E. triglochidiatus
Epiphyllum spp.
Matucana madisoniorum
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Opuntia cylindrica
O. leptocaulis
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginumP. pringlei
Selenicereus grandiflorus
Trichocereus species



Candidates for Ingestion-

Coryphantha species
Epithalantha micromeris
Mammillaria spp.
Pelecyphora aselliformis or P. pseudopectinata
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele or T. pseudopectinatus



Teotzlcoatl's List of Psychoactive Cacti-


Comprehensive list of Peyotes- (Suspected)

Ariocarpus agavoides
A. fissuratus
A. kotschoubeyanus
A. retusus
Armatocereus laetus
Astrophytum asterias
A. capricorne
A. myriostigma
Aztekium ritterii
Coryphantha compacta
C. elephantidens
C. macromeris
C. palmerii
C. rosea
Dolichothele longimamma
Epithalantha micromeris
Gymnocalycium spp.
Leuchtenbergia principis
Lophophora williamsii
Lophophora diffusa
Mammillaria spp.
Mammillaria craigii
M. grahamii
M. heydeii
Mamillopsis senilis
Obregonia denegrii
Pelecyphora aselliformis
P. pseudopectinata
Solisia pectinata
Strombocactus disciformisTurbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
T. pseudopectinatus


Comprehensive list of Psychoactive Cacti- (Suspected)

Carnegiea gigantea
Echinocactus spp.
Echinocactus grandis
E. grusonii
E. visnaga
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus
E. triglochidiatus
Epiphyllum spp.
Matucana madisoniorum
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Opuntia cylindrica
O. leptocaulis
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
P. pringlei
Selenicereus grandiflorus
Trichocereus species



M. S. Smith's List-

Supported Tarahumara revered cacti (hikuri):

Ariocarpus fissuratus
Coryphantha compacta (C. palmeri)
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus (E. scheeri?)
Echinocereus polyacanthus (replacing E. triglochidiatus which appears to be out of Tarahumara range â€" E. polyacanthus grows throughout Tarahumara territory and was once called E. triglochidiatus - currently recognized T. triglochidiatus is known from Colorado through New Mexico and into the more northerly sections of Mexico)
Epithalantha micromeris
Hikuri cimarron (Astrophytum myriostigma?)
Lophophora williamsii
Mammillaria sonorensis (M. craigii)
Mammillaria grahamii
Mammillaria heyderi (M. heyderi v. gummifera, M. gummifera)
Mammillaria (Mamillopsis) senilis (feared)
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
Pachycereus pringlei (revered by Seri indians - by Tarahumara?)

Supported Huichol revered cacti (hikuri):

Ariocarpus retusus (the only true “false peyote” and feared)
Echinocactus platyacanthus (E. visnaga)
Lophophora williamsii

Plants that are rumored to be considered “peyote” or "false peyote" but which lack support as having any traditional used among aboriginal tribes:

Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus
Ariocarpus retusus ssp. Trigonus
Ariocarpus scapharostrus
Astrophytum asterias
Astrophytum capricorne
Aztekium ritterii
Coryphantha macromeris
Coryphantha macromeris ssp. runyonii
Lophophora diffusa
Mammillaria longimamma (Dolichothele longimamma)
Mammillaria pectinifera (Solista pectinata)
Obregonia denegrii
Pelecyphora aselliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)

I'd to grow the most promising species-

"Peyotes"

Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus fissuratus
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus
Astrophytum asterias
Aztekium ritterii
Coryphantha compacta
Coryphantha macromeris
Epithalantha micromeris
Lophophora williamsii
Mammillaria sonorensis (M. craigii)
Mammillaria grahamii
Mammillaria (Mamillopsis) senilis
Mammillaria longimamma (Dolichothele longimamma)
Mammillaria pectinifera (Solista pectinata)
Obregonia denegrii
Pelecyphora aselliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)


Psychoactive or Medicinal Cacti-

Carnegiea gigantea
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus
Echinocereus polyacanthus
Echinocactus platyacanthus
Matucana madisoniorumNeoraimondia macrostibas
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
Pachycereus pringlei
Trichocereus species




Good Canadaties for Psychoactive Cacti-

Ariocarpus agavoides; fissuratus; kotschoubeyanus
Coryphantha compacta
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus; polyacanthus
Epithalantha micromeris
Mammillaria sonorensis (M. craigii); grahamii; senilis
Mammillaria longimamma(Dolichothele longimamma)



I'd also look into the following-

Pelecyphora aselliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
(NEEED EDITING)


Within 2 weeks of and 2 weeks after-
ALL medications, vitamins and/or other drugs
Protein bars or extracts
Sumatriptan
Symptathomimetic drugs
Imitrex
Antihistamines
MDMA and related chemicals
Aged Cheese- Bre’, etc.
Amphetamines
Migraine medicines
SSRIs and any other anti-depressants
OTC cold medicines
Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine
Yohimbe
Heterocyclicsand
Sedatives- Sleeping Pills, Tranquilizers, etc.
Decongestants
Diet pills, Appetite suppressants
Asarone
Nutmeg
Macromerine
Narcotics- Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, etc.
Allergy or Asthma Medication
Opiates- Opium, Valium, Oxycotton, Hydrocodone
St. Johns Wort
Dextromethorphan
Any other MAO inhibitor; MAOI Anti-depressants- Sertraline (zoloft, etc.
Amoxapine (asendin)
Antihypertensives (high blood pressure medication)
Clomipramine (anafranil)
Cyclobenzaprine (flexeril)
Desipramine (pertofrane)
Doxepin (sinequan)
Fluoxetine (prozac)
Imipramine (tofranil)
Levodopa (dopar, larodopa)
Maprotiline (ludiomil)
Meperidine (demerol)
Methylphenidate (ritalin)
Nortriptyline (aventyl)
Paroxetine (paxil)
Protriptyline (vivactil)
Selegiline (eldepryl)
Tricyclic antidepressants (amitriptyline, elavil)
Trimipramine (surmontil)




Within 1 week of and 1 week after-
Same as above+
All drugs and alcohol (Including Tobacco, Cannabis, EVERYTHING)
Any tyrosine-containing food
Mescaline
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Broad (Fava) bean pods ( whatever that is)
Soy Sauce and Miso soup
Avocados
Non-alcoholic brewed (Fermented) beverages (non-alcoholic beer); Kombucha; All other brewed drinks.
Protein bars or extracts
Aged cheese
Chocolate
Ginseng and/or other medicinal herbs
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.

Within 3 days of and 3 after-
Same as above+
Began Fasting
All drugs and alcohol
Kombucha, Beer and/or other fermented beverages
Bananas
Dried Fruits (Raisins, Dates, etc.)
Chocolate
Dill
Parsley
Fennel
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Broad (Fava) bean pods
Avocados
Cultured dairy products (buttermilk, yogurt, and sour cream)
All Caffeine products (Coffee, Black or Oolong Tea, Energy Drinks, Ect.)
All Dairy products
Soy Sauce
Spinach
Figs, Plums, Raspberries and Grapes
Nuts
Cheeses
High Protein Meals
Sausage, Bologna, Pepperoni, Liver and Salami (Pork)
Sauerkraut and Mayo’
Shrimp, Lobster and Crayfish
Soups- may have high protein, Miso soup can be dangerous.
Yeast (unless baked)
Salts, Oils and Fats
Sugar
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.



Within 36 hours of and 36 hours after-
Same as above+
Perform Detox
No meat or ingestion of any sort of living creature.
Absolute no candy, sugar, fats, oils, salt and/or spices.
No sex or masturbation.
Take a long bath or shower; Shave your Head, Eye-Brows and Ass; Paint yourself Blue.
Drink nothing but water.
Contemplate the experience.

33-7 hours before- Same as above + No food

3-1 hours before- Same as above + No water or other drink.

5-15m before- Prepare a snack of fresh fruit and wild or white rice with butter and oil.
Pre-roll a small joint for after the purge.
Release all bodily waste and fluids.
Shake before use.

The Trip-
Drink Aya’(over 15m) along with a small glass of water or juice.
Attempt to keep Aya’ down at least 1:00 hour.
Ingest mint and/or ginger (Anti-nausea) if desired.
Smoke cannabis (Anti-nausea) if desired.
Consume the MAOI safe food, if desired.
Run around naked and make strange noises.
Be sure to drink a glass of water or juice to re-hydrate yourself 1-3h after the purge.



Some good things to eat during the strictest periods of dieting are-

Plain white rice
Freshly caught fish (Never frozen or out-dated)
Fresh Fruits and Vegetables


How to Detox-
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Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:49:08 PM
“The Plant Medicine Sutra” (Adapted from "Zig-zag Zen")


One cool evening as the Buddha slept in the jungle he was awaken to find himself surrounded by encroaching vines, branches, flowers and roots; The essence of the botanical world, all requesting his teaching and knowledge to illuminate their minds.

The Buddha spoke- “No, it is you, not I, who should speak. It is your voice which needs to teach humanity about the vast web of life, consciousness and awareness that is the birthright of us all. Your sap, your juices, your fibers, your voice. We ask that you transmit your knowledge through our species. Speak in way that is unmistakable, unclouded by words and language; un-obscured by the intellect we have come to value so highly. Speak to us if our interconnectedness, teach use how to rejoice in love, show us the way to our primal essence, our true nature. Teach us to respect the natural world- trees, grasses, animals, insects, rocks, winds, mists, clouds, stars, spirits, and other realms of existence. We have lost of connection with plants, with the Earth, with Tao. We carry on recklessly, unaware of the web you sustain. It is from you that I learned of the intelligence of nature. It is you who came forth and affirmed my nature when on that perilous night, I touched the Earth and called out to you. It was your wisdom and grace raining down from the spreading, unfolding branches of the bodhi tree that sustained my enlightenment; It was you, as the early morning star affirmed my nature and the nature of everything, all beings, just as they are, whole and complete, lacking nothing, soaked in compassion. I kneel before you and ask for your teachings.”
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:49:27 PM
S.S. Order


Cacti-

Trichocereus peruvianus/macrogonus “Special” 8" middle cut of a T. peruvianus from Matucana, Seed grown, similar to "Los Gentiles" ~ $20

Non-P.C. Trichocereus pachanoi ~ 6" cut from a medium spined plant
collected by Myron Kimnach near Cajamarca, Peru ~ $12

Trichocereus bridgesii f. monstrose ~ “Clone B” 6'’- 8'’ cutting ~ $16

Echinocereus scheeri v, huitcholensis Lau 768 ~ 3'’- 4'’ rooted cutting ~ $ 6.50

Turbinicarpus lausseri (= T. pseudomacrochele v. lausseri) ~ 1"+ plant 7-8 years old ~ $7.50

Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele ~ 1"+ plant ~ $10

Trichocereus sp. B.B.G. 64.0762, 6" cutting ~ $10



Plants-


Prunus japonica “Bush Cherry” ~ 10"+ Seedling 2 years old ~ $9
(three plants) = $27

Seeds-

Aztekium ritteri seeds ~ seed packet $2
Strombocactus disciformis seeds ~ seed packet $2
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus seeds ~ seed packet $2


Trichocereus Hybrid Seeds-

Trichocereus pachanoi / ”Juul’s Giant” hybrid X T. peruvianus “Huancabamba”~ Seed packet $4
Trichocereus pachanoi / “Juul’s Giant” F2 hybrid ~ Seed packet $4


Trichocereus Seeds-

Trichocereus macrogonus ~ Seed packet $2.50
Trichocereus peruvianus “Los Gentiles” “Pichu” ~ Seed packet $3


Plant Seeds-

Nicotiana rustica “Kessu” ~ Seed packet $4
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:49:50 PM
Shamanic Tool-Box-



Stainless Steel Pots (For brewing)
Edible Lime (For quids or chews)
Jars, Tins, Boxes and Bags (For storage)
Rolling Papers
Filters
Rolling Machine
Hand-Grinders
Scales ( .1g)
Mortar and Pestal
Shot Glass
Special Cups (For drinking ethnobotanical brews)
Metal Cigarette Case
Pure Drinkable Alcohol 95% (For extractions)
Strainers of all sorts and sizes (including cheese cloth)
Drying Rack
“Infuser” French Press and/or Tea Pot
“Pint Glasses” Beer and Wine/Spirit Glasses
Washable Heavy Duty Machine Grinder
Intent focusing objects- crystals, rocks, gems, wands, rare/powerful plants or dried botanicals, etc.
Smudging Herbs- Sage (Salvia species),
Sacred Incense- Myrrh, Frankincense, Copal, etc.
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:50:05 PM
Entheogen Class (Choose Seven to Thirteen to use per Year)-


Banisteriopsis caapi, Diplopterys cabrerana & Psychotria viridis ~ “Ayahuasca”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Ipomoea violacea ~ “Tlitliltzin”, Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”, Argyreia nervosa ~ “Woodrose”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro” or Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sinicuichi” or “Sun-Opener”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”


Drug- (Once a Month)

Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium Poppies”
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Ways”
Calea zacatechichi ~ “Bitter Dream Herb”


Psychoactive Class (May be used Once per Week)

Passiflora incarnata ~ “Passion-Flower”
Erythroxylum spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus” or Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Scared Lotus”
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Mitragyna speciosa ~ “Kratom”
Humulus lupulus ~ “Hops”
Catha edulis ~ “Khat”
Areca catechu and Piper betle ~ "Betel Nut" and “Betel Leaf”
Leonotis leonurus ~ “Wild Dagga”
Sceletium tortuosum ~ “Kanna”
Duboisia hopwoodii ~ "Pituri"
Pedicularis densiflora ~ “Indian Warrior”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”
Myristica fragrans ~ “Nutmeg”
Canavalia maritima
Sida acuta
Zornia latifolia
Artemisia absinthium ~ “Wormwood”

Ethnobotanical Class ( May be used as needed, for up to a month)

Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Theobroma cacao ~ “Cacao”or “Cocoa” or “Chocolate”
Ilex Paraguariensis ~ “Yerba Mate”
Ephedra spp. ~ “Ma Huang”
Lactuca virosa ~ “Wild Lettuce Opium”
Scutellaria lateriflora ~ “Skullcap”
Valeriana officinalis ~ “Valerian Root”
Verbena hastate “Blue Vervain”
Pausinystalia yohimbe ~ “Yohimbe”
Panax spp. ~ “Ginseng”
Aspalathus linearis “Rooibos”
Leonurus sibiricus ~ “Motherwort”
Gingko biloba ~ “Gingko”
Rholdia rosea ~ “Golden Root”

Verbascum blattaria "Moth Mullein"
Osha Root
Yerbe Santa
Lobelia inflata ~ "Indian Tobacco"
Polygala sibirica and Polygala tenuifolia "Taoist Memory enhancer"


Notes- Three smoking sessions per week. (You can smoke how ever much you want for Three hours)



old MODERATUON-



Daily Herbs- Ingest a “Healing Herbs” each morning, but don’t use the same one every morning.

Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Aspalathus linearis ~ “Rooibos”
Ilex Paraguariensis ~ “Yerba Mate”
Ginkgo biloba ~ “Gingko”
Fermented Tea ~ “Kombucha”

Weekly Psychoactives- Choose a few of the following to use once of twice a week.

Beer and/or Wine ~ “Alcohol”
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Lactuca virosa ~ “Lettuce Opium”
Mitragyna speciosa ~ “Kratom”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Ephedra spp. ~ “Ephedra”
Erythroxylon spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”
Coffea arabica ~ “Coffee”
Theobroma cacao ~ “Chocolate”
Panax ginseng, Panax quinquefolia and/or Eleutherococcus senticosus ~ “Ginseng”
Valeriana officinalis ~ "Valerian Root"



Monthly Psychoactives- Choose a few of the following to use once or twice a month.

Nymphaea caerulea and/or Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Lotus”
Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium”
Pausinystalia yohimbe ~ “Yohimbe” (MAOI)
Sceletium tortuosum ~ “Kanna” (SSRI)
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Way”
Calea zacatechichi ~ “Dream Herb”
Rhodiola rosea ~ “Golden Root” (MAOI)
Artemisia absinthium ~ “Absinthe”
Lagochilus inebrians ~ "Turkistan Mint"
Catha edulis ~ "Khat"
Myristica fragrans ~ "Nutmeg"


Yearly Entheogens- Choose Seven of the Following to Ingest each Year.

Heimia salicifolia and/or H. myrtifolia ~ "Sinicuichi" or "Sun Opener"
Argyreia Nervosa, Ipomoea violacea, and/or Rivea corymbosa ~ “Morning Glories”
Amanita Muscaria ~ “Soma”, “Haoma” or “Mario Mushrooms”
Salvia divinorum ~ “Salvia”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “‘Shrooms” or “Mushrooms”
Trichocereus species or Lophophora williamsii ~ “Cactus” and “Peyote”
B. Caapi, Psychotria species, Diplopterys cabrerana and/or Passiflora incarnata = “Ayahuasca”
Tabernatnthe Iboga ~ “Iboga Root”



Notes-


Always follow an MAOI-safe diet seven days before and seven days after using any MAOI.


Never take an MAOI within 33 days of taking a SSRI, Or within 33 days of taking another MAOI.






“The Path to Moderation, Longevity and Immortality”


~ Constantly cultivate Tao, and have a connection with God.
~ Remain hopeful and happy.
~ Do not become delusional, confused or insane; Keep a clear mind.
~ Do not stray from the limitation you have set for yourself; Do not overindulge.
~Plants, Fungi, Cacti and other organics; which grow from the Earth are the only mind altering substances which should ever be taken.
~Entheogens including Ayahuasca, “‘Shrooms”-Amanita Muscaria or Psilocybian, Cacti or anything else which greatly alters the consciousness in a positive way may be used up to 7 times every 13 moons.
~Do not have any Solanaceae plants in or near your home. Cultivate only Nicotiana species. Always wear gloves when handling them.
~Do not drink alcohol in excess. Four six packs of beer or four bottles of wine a month is plenty, more is foolish. Do not drink distilled alcohol.
~Drink Black or Oolong Tea and Yerba Mate every morning. Drink white/green teas and Rooibos daily.
~When smoking always use a water pipe.
~Smoke no more than 7.0grams of a Cannabis a month, 3 ounces a year. Cannabis sativa in the mornings; Cannabis indica in the evenings.
~ Lotus, Lettuce opium, Kratom, Kanna, Cannabis, Nicotiana spp., Ephedra, Coca leaf, Kava Kava, Coffee and Yohimbe may be used once every 7 days.
~ Never mix Ephedra, caffeine, MAOIs and/or aspirin.. Use no more than 2-3g of Ephedra plant material per dose.
~ Stay away from all extracts and highly potent concoctions except with the most benign herbals.
~ Be careful with MAOIs (B. Caapi, Passiflora I. Yohimbe, etc.) and SSRIs (Kanna, etc.); Do not use them within one lunar month of one another (28 days).
~Take Ginseng, Reishi ‘Shroom, Tea, Yerba Mate, Rooibos, and Rhodiola rosea plant material or extracts, along with other vitamins daily.
~Drink Coffee or espresso once a week, no more. Do not consume any other caffeine products.
~Reduce OTC and prescription drug intake.
~Reduce Sugar intake.
~Reduce the consumption of “fast” food; pre-packaged food; junk food; and store bought products.
~Eat organic, natural, healthy, home-grown, home-cooked, foods which don’t come from a can.
~Practice meditation at least weekly. For at least 20m each time.
~Fast occasionally; for 24-72 hours each time. (Once to Thirteen times a year)
~Exercise Regularly (No less than Three times a week for 1 Hour each time)



Daily Supplenments- (Once a day)
Ginseng (Panax spp.) ~ Fresh or dried root eaten with Breakfast.
Reishi 'Shroom (Ganoderma lucidum) ~ Fresh or dried ‘shrooms eaten with Breakfast.
Rhodiola rosea ~ Fresh or dried plant material eaten with Breakfast.
Camellia sinensis ~ Black/Oolong Tea drank with Breakfast. White/Green Tea drank Daily.
Ilex Paraguariensis ~Un-oxidized plant material drank with Breakfast.
Aspalathus linearis ~ Un-oxidized plant material drank Daily.


Weekly Psychoactives- (Once every Seven days)(You may choose one to use twice per week)
Ginkgo biloba ~ Drink leaf infusion or ingest extract (Can be used more frequently if needed)
Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and/or Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) ~ Smoke or steep in Wine/Hot water.
Lactuca virosa ~ Smoke dried alcohol extract or dried sap.
Mitragyna speciosa ~ Chew fresh or dried leaf with red vein removed.
Sceletium tortuosum ~ Fermented and dried leaf/flower (Do not take within a 28 days of Yohimbe or Ayahusca)
Cannabis sativa ~ Smoke dried sativa, indica, and/or hybrid buds.
Nicotiana spp. ~ Smoke cured leaf.
Ephedra sinica ~ Hot water infusion made with no more than three grams of fresh or dried plant material.
Erythroxylon coca ~ Hot water infusion of fresh or dried leaf; Or chewed fresh leaf.
Piper methysticum ~ Cold water infusion of fresh or dried smashed root.
Coffea arabica ~ Hot water infusion of roasted seeds in french press.
Pausinystalia yohimbe~ Hot water infusion or alcohol extract of bark(Do not take within a 28 days of Sceletium tortuosum or Ayahusca)


Monthly Drugs-(Once every Twenty-Eight days)
Papaver somniferum (You may smoke unaltered pod sap once per month)
Drink no more than 24 Beers/4 Bottles of Wine per month



Yearly Entheogens- (Seven times every Three hundred - Sixty- Four days)
Choose Seven of the following to use each Lunar year (13 Moons) -

Ayahuasca= Banisteriopsis caapi, Psychotria viridis, Diplopterys cabrerana and Passiflora incarnata
Psilocybin Mushrooms
Salvia divinorum
Amanita Muscaria properly prepared as "Haoma"
Trichoceros species or Lophophora williamsii
Argyreia Nervosa, Turbina corymbosa and/or Ipomoea violacea
Silene capensis
Tabernanthe iboga




*Point is... You don’t need to be fucked up/trippin’ all the time.*
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Entheogenic Waiver Date:_________________



I ______________________ understand that I am going to ingest an entheogenic substance, and do so by my own free will.

I ______________________ take full responsibility for any of the effects that the entheogenic substance has on my mind or body.

I ______________________ take full responsibility for any harm I do to myself or others while on the influence of the Entheogenic substance.

I ______________________ understand that ______________________ did his/her best to prepare the Entheogenic substance and understand that the effects are variable and an experience is not 100% guaranteed.


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Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 01:50:39 PM
List of Safe and Effective Botanicals-


Entheogens-

Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Oco’ Yage” or “Ayahuasca
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Ipomoea violacea ~ “Tlitliltzin”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Argyreia nervosa ~ “Woodrose”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sinicuichi” or “Sun-Opener”
Mimosa hostilis ~ “Jurema”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Scared Lotus”


Psychoactives-

Passiflora incarnata ~ “Passion-Flower”
Erythroxylum spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus”
Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium Poppies”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Mitragyna speciosa ~ “Kratom”
Myristica fragrans ~ “Nutmeg”
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Ways”
Calea zacatechichi ~ “Bitter Dream Herb”
Catha edulis ~ “Khat”
Areca catechu and Piper betle ~ "Betel Nut" and “Betel Leaf”
Leonotis leonurus ~ “Wild Dagga”
Sceletium tortuosum ~ “Kanna”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”



Ethnobotanicals-

Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Humulus lupulus ~ “Hops”
Theobroma cacao ~ “Cacao”or “Cocoa” or “Chocolate”
Ilex Paraguariensis ~ “Yerba Mate”
Ephedra spp. ~ “Ma Huang”
Lactuca virosa ~ “Wild Lettuce Opium”
Scutellaria lateriflora ~ “Skullcap”
Pausinystalia yohimbe ~ “Yohimbe”
Artemisia absinthium ~ “Wormwood”
Aspalathus linearis ~ “Rooibos”
Leonurus sibiricus ~ “Motherwort”
Canavalia maritima
Sida acuta
Zornia latifolia
Verbascum blattaria ~ "Moth Mullein"
Lobelia inflata ~ "Indian Tobacco"




Medinicals-

Mryyh
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 08:30:21 PM
Seven Holy Scents; Shamanic Incense-

Commiphora myrrha ~ "Myrrh"

Boswellia sacra ~ "Frankincense"

Styrax benzoin ~ "Benzoin resin"

Bursera microphylla ~ "Copal"

Bursera graveolens ~ "Palo Santo"

Peganum harmala ~ "Syrian Rue"

Santalum album ~ "Sandalwood"



and possibly Machilus thunbergii ~ "Makko" as a binder.




Smudging bundle Incense-

Salvia apiana ~ "White Sage"

Hierochloe odorata ~ "Sweetgrass"

Nicotiana species ~ "Tobacco"

Salvia divinorum ~ "Diviner’s Sage"

Calea zacatechichi ~ "Dream Herb"

Psychotria species ~ "Chacruna"

Nelumbo nucifera &/or Nymphaea caerulea ~ "Lotus"

Erythroxylum species ~ "Coca leaf"

Lactuca virosa ~ "Wild Lettuce"

Verbascum blattaria ~ "Moth Mullein"

Mentha species ~ "Mint"

Arctostaphylos uva-ursi ~ "BearBerrry"








I need a shell and feather



fugincide inscetice-

Tobacco

Preying mantis

Lady bugs



look into Epipactis helleborine


Cure tobacco in press with vanilla beans, dates(Dried fruit),

Hang tobacco in barn to cure.

Make raised beds with the logs from the barn.

Seperate the gold leaf from the dark leaf, the dark leaf is pressure cured.
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 08:30:45 PM
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Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 08:31:06 PM
Genus Lophophora ~ Species-

Lophophora decepiens

Lophophora diffusa

Lophophora fricii

Lophophora koehresii

Lophophora jourdaniana

Lophophora williamsii


Many, many more strains and cultivator exist, espeically of Lophophora williamsii.






~Diffusae~

Lophophora diffusa

Lophophora koehresii




~Williamsiae~

Lophophora decepiens

Lophophora fricii (Possibly Diffusae)

Lophophora jourdaniana (Possibly a Hybrid)

Lophophora williamsii





Out-of-date-names-

Anhalonium lewinii
Echinocactus williamsii
Lophophora echinata
Lophophora lewinii
Lophophora lutea
Lophophora viridescens
Lophophora ziegleri






Ask trout about Note's 3rd edition part A and Lophophora DNA work.
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 08:32:58 PM
This is my IDEA for my store, I don't have a store YET!


NAMES: One stop shaman shop, Shamanic toolbox,


My store should sell-


Shamanic toolbox~


Other products-

Blown Glass pipes, bongs, jars, etc.
Wood, stone, corn-cob and other pipes made from organic materials.
"Voodoo" dolls (Corn husk dolls)
Crystals, gems, stones, etc.
Herb storage- Boxs, jars, bags, etc.
Incense (at least one organic home-made), smudge bundles, etc.
Necklaces, beads, jewerly, clothing, head-dresses, etc.
Drums, rattles, digeridoos, etc.
Organic Blue body paint, heina temp. tattoo kits, etc.
Books, leather-bound journals, etc.
Heavy machine grinders, small hand grinders, mortar and pestal, etc.
Botanicals soaps, washes, etc.



Dried botanicals- Whole super high quailty botanicals (when aviable)



Super high quailty amanita muscaria caps (Only from cold climates and high elevations)

Fresh thick caapi vine

Psychotra spp. leafs

Diplopterys leafs

High quailty "Cactus Strips"- these dried cactus chips are made from our various strains of trichocereus cacti. (No spines, skins or cores)

Dried Cacti Flowers

Cured good ole tobacco (offered both "Hand-tied" and chopped/blended)

Salvia leafs

Whole Kava root

Whole Valerian and Lady's Slipper roots

Whole Kratom Leafs

Whole Lotus flowers










~Live Rooted Botanicals~



Cacti-

"True" Trichocereus peruvanius (Blue, potent) cuts

"True" Trichocereus pachanoi (Non-predominant cultivator, potent) cuts

Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus fissuratus
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus
Ariocarpus retusus
Astrophytum asterias
Astrophytum myriostigma
Aztekium ritterii
Carnegiea gigantea
Coryphantha compacta
Coryphantha elephantidens
Coryphantha macromeris
Echinocactus platyacanthus (Echinocactus visnaga)
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus (Echinocereus scheeri)
Echinocereus polyacanthus
Epithalantha micromeris
Mammillaria grahamii; micromeris; heyderi; spp.
Mammillaria (Dolichothele) longimamma
Mammillaria pectinifera (Solisia pectinata)
Mammillaria (Mamillopsis) senilis
Mammillaria sonorensis (Mammillaria craigii)
Matucana madisoniorum
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Obregonia denegrii
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
Pachycereus pringlei
Pelecyphora aselliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)
Trichocereus species

Plants-

Banisteriopsis caapi
Psychotria viridis
Diplopterys cabrerana
Ipomoea violacea
Rivea corymbosa
Argyreia nervosa
Salvia Divinorum; miltiorrhiza; spp.
Trichocereus spp. "True" forms
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia  
Mimosa hostilis
Passiflora incarnata
Mitragyna speciosa various strains- "Bumblebee, "Rifit", "Kroth", etc.
Silene capensis
Calea zacatechichi
Sceletium tortuosum
Piper methysticum
Camellia sinensis
Theobroma cacao
Ilex Paraguariensis
Ephedra spp.
Artemisia absinthium ~ “Wormwood”
Aspalathus linearis ~ “Rooibos”
Leonurus sibiricus ~ “Motherwort”
Canavalia maritima
Sida acuta
Zornia latifolia
Verbascum blattaria ~ "Moth Mullein"
Lobelia inflata ~ "Indian Tobacco"
Polygala sibirica and Polygala tenuifolia "Taoist Memory enhancer"
Panax spp. ~ “Ginseng”
Gingko biloba ~ “Gingko”
Rholdia rosea ~ “Golden Root”
Valeriana officinalis ~ “Valerian Root”
Verbena hastate “Blue Vervain”
Cypripedium pubescens ~ "Lady's Slipper"
Pedicularis spp.




Seeds-

Lactuca virosa

"True" Trichocereus strains seeds and Hybrids

Erythroxylum spp. seed mix

Catha spp. ~ “Khat” seed mix

"Peyote" Mix (Includes Ariocarpus, Astrophytum, Aztekium, Echinocactus, Epithalantha, Obregonia, Pelecyphora, Strombocactus, Turbinicarpus)

Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus” and Nelumbo ~ "Sacred Lotus"

Papaver somniferum ~ “Opium Poppies”

Myristica fragrans

Pedicularis spp.

Tabernanthe spp.

Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco” "Smoker's Tobacco" mix

Nicotiana rustica "Shaman's tobacco"

Ipomoea violacea

Rivea corymbosa

Argyreia nervosa
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2008, 08:34:00 PM
Temple Earth-

My Religion-

Meditate

Fast

Take entheogens

Suggested spiritual materials- Tao teh ching,


List of Supported Plants-



Advocates-

A return to communal, logical and more economical systems of society.

The use of botanicals as a means of spirtuaility and happiness.

Equailty among both sexes and races.

Peace among all of humanity.

Eviromental resortation and preservation.

Research into botanicals medicines, shamanism and philosophy.
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2008, 11:58:55 PM
Updates-

Haversted some of my organic habaneros and cayenne peppers today.

The tobacco is very large now, and have been suckered and each plant clipped of it's flowering bud.

One of my Lophophora williams flowered AGAIN today! I've been collecting many Lophophora and Epithelantha fruits as well.

My Sassafras root cutting is becoming a beautiful lil' tree.
Title:
Post by: Stonehenge on July 29, 2008, 01:58:57 PM
How about posting a pic of your flowering loph?
Title:
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2008, 07:51:05 PM
Ya, sure, I got tons...

(//http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd59/teotz/cactus006.jpg)

...want more?
Title: cacti cuts
Post by: Anonymous on September 21, 2008, 11:15:58 PM
Teotzlcoatl rocks the house!
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on December 11, 2008, 02:43:45 AM
Shamanic Tools-

Stainless Steel Pots (For brewing) [3-5]
Edible Lime (For quids or chews)
Jars, Tins, Boxes and Bags (For storage)
Pipes, Bongs, Water Pipes, etc.
Rolling Papers, Filters, Rolling Machine
Tweezers
Razer blades
Fire
Hand-Grinders
Scales ( .1g)
Mortar and Pestal
Shot Glass
Special Cups (For drinking ethnobotanical brews)
Metal Cigarette Case
Pure Drinkable Alcohol 95% (For extractions)
Strainers of all sorts and sizes (including cheese cloth)
Drying Rack and/or Dehydrator
“Infuser” French Press and/or Tea Pot
“Pint Glasses” Beer and Wine/Spirit Glasses
Washable Heavy Duty Machine Grinder
Intent focusing objects- crystals, rocks, gems, wands, rare/powerful plants or dried botanicals, etc.
Smudging Herbs- Sage (Salvia species),
Sacred Incense; Seven Holy Scents; Shamanic Incense- Commiphora myrrha ~ "Myrrh", Boswellia sacra ~ "Frankincense", Styrax benzoin ~ "Benzoin resin", Bursera microphylla ~ "Copal", Bursera graveolens ~ "Palo Santo", Peganum harmala ~ "Syrian Rue", Santalum album ~ "Sandalwood".
Crystal Skulls
An Alter
Feathers
Gems and such
Burner diffuser, copal burner
Cohoba platter and blow pipe
Duho/ Dujo sacred Chieftains stool.





What Shamans Do-

Foretell the future
Heal the sick
Get information from the "Other-World"
Divine dreams
Travel to different planes of existance and through alternate dimensions
Channel energy
Trip sit

(more to come)



A Guide To Trip Sitting-

1) Prepare the area- Wheather you go camping or stay home, sit out on a beach or next to the fireplace in your living room, you need to prepare the area. Remove things that bind your to your normal, everyday scope of reality. Clean up your area, remove any clutter or much of anything to get distracted with and caught up in everyday reality. Get some pens, pencils, papers and such so you can draw, or your could ever paint. Have some relaxed enjoyable music. I think one of the best things to do while trippin' is to watch natural, if that's a campfire, or a sunset, some deer of in the distance, clouds, birds, whatever... I always find that very enlightening and comforting.

2) Prepare yourself- Follow the nessicery diet and fasting period required by the entheogen of your choosing.


Things to Say to the Person Tripping-

"This will be over very soon, you don't have very long to enjoy this state of mind."


"Anything that arises let it pass, be it euphoira or sorrow, contemplate your existance in this exact moment."


Up-Most Supported Botanicals-

Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “Chacruna” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Chaliponga” or “Ayahuasca
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”



Supported Botanicals (Extended Verison)-

Tabernanthe iboga ~ “Iboga”
Banisteriopsis caapi ~ “Vine of the Souls” or “Ayahuasca”
Psychotria viridis ~ “Chacruna” or “Ayahuasca”
Diplopterys cabrerana ~ “Chaliponga” or “Ayahuasca
Trichocereus spp. ~ “San Pedro”
Lophophora williamsii ~ “Peyote”
Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”
Ipomoea violacea ~ “Tlitliltzin”
Rivea corymbosa ~ “Ololiuqui”
Argyreia nervosa ~ “Woodrose”
Salvia Divinorum ~ "Pipilzintzintli"
Heimia salicifolia and Heimia myrtifolia ~ “Sinicuichi” or “Sun-Opener”
Mimosa hostilis ~ “Jurema”
Amanita muscaria ~ “Fly Agaric”
Cannabis sativa ~ “Marijuana”
Nelumbo nucifera ~ “Scared Lotus”
Nymphaea caerulea ~ “Blue Lotus”
Nicotiana spp. ~ “Tobacco”
Silene capensis ~ “Root of the White Ways”
Piper methysticum ~ “Kava Kava”
Camellia sinensis ~ “Tea”
Erythroxylum spp. ~ “Coca Leaf”
Theobroma cacao ~ "Cocoa" or "Chocolate"





Community-

Raise lifestock
Cultivate ethnobotanicals
Enrich the Soil
Protect the Enviroment
Help purify the Water and Air
Control Population and Illness through non-violent methods

Society and Moral Concerning Psychoactives-

Blatant public intoxication is unaccectable.

Driving, operating machinery or performing other possibly dangerous acts while intoxicated is extremely unaccectable.

Entheogenic initiation at 17-19, no drugs and/or psychoactives or any sort should be taken in a child's life before his/her initiation, nor should they have sexual intercourse or marry.



~ Ethnobotanical Temple of Humanity ~

The Temple accepts all people, all races, sexes and Homo sapiens of every type, as long as they are over 17 years of age.

The Temple Advocates-

A return to communal, logical and more sensible systems of society.

The use of botanicals as a means of spirtuaility, enjoyment, enlightenment and happiness.

Equailty among sexes, races and all members of the species "sapiens" of genus "Homo".

Peace among all of humanity. Non-voilence among Homo sapiens.

Eviromental resortation and preservation.

Never sell the botanical sacraments nor give them away to any person who is not a member of the Temple.

Children under 17 shall not ingest psychoactives of any form.

Spanking children is acceptable if they are under age 13, but beating a child is unacceptable.

Sexual intercourse among childern under 17 or before their entheogenic intation to adulthood is extremely discouraged.

Children under 13 are given no gender distinction, and should not be permitted to view or partake in sexual activities.

Nudity among those under 13 is completely acceptable, those who have reached purbity should modestly cover their gentiles.

Monogmy is encouraged and divorce is frowned upon. Adultery is unacceptable. Those who are over 17, but not married are free to do as they wish, but a couple who becomes pregant is considered married until the child has reached adulthood (17).

Sexual intercourse by children who have not under gone intation (age 17-19) is strongly discouraged.

Strong family structure

Show commasion for all beings. Do not take pleas love dont hurt animals



Some Simple Beliefs-

1) The killing of Homo sapiens is the immoral.

2) All Homo sapiens are born equal, no matter their race, nor gender.

3) The planet Earth, the third planet from the Sun, is the home of all Homo sapiens. It is to be cherished and protected.

4) Entheogenic botanicals are a viable part of Homo sapiens spirituality, both streching into the past, and reaching into the future.


Entheogens Advocated by the Temple must have a "yes" answer to the following Questions-

1) Does it come directly from organic botanical sources?

2) Does it have a long history of human use?

3) Does it's history of human use show that it is an effective entheogen?

4) Does it's history of human use show that it is relatively safe?


Ethnobotanicals Rights-

1) All living and dried botanicals shall remain legal to cultivate and possess. No unprocessed part of any botanicals may be restricted by law.

2) The spiritual use of psychoactive botanicals shall remain legal to practice on private property, in a private church, temple, club or other organization or in one's home.



Supported Spiritual Texts-

Tao Te' ching
The Bible (Gnostic "Banned" Text included)
Tibetan Book of the Dead
Buddhist Texts
Hindu Texts


Holidays/Festivals-

Birth of Jesus Christ (Thought to be Late Sep. (30th?) 5 B.C.E. or possibly June 17th 2 B.C.E.)
Enlightenment of the Buddha
Good Friday/Easter (death and rising of christ)
All Hallows Eve & All Hallows Day
Earth Day (Enviromental Awareness)
Festival of Humanity (Mid-Spring, Huge Trip festival)
Thanksgiving
Fasting Holiday (deep meditation, etc.)
Leap Time (5 day period once every 4 years before the begining of the new year, a time of "no time", must forgive pay all depts and forgive all depters, etc.)
Winter Solstice-  occurs some time between December 20 and December 23 each year in the northern hemisphere, and between June 20 and June 23 in the southern hemisphere.
Summer solstice- occurs some time between June 20 and June 23 each year in the northern hemisphere, and between December 20 and December 23 in the southern hemisphere.

Equinox- occurring around March 20 and September 22 each year.




New Calander-

Implement new 13 moon (28, 24 hour days) calander (every 4 years you have a "leap" of 5 days of "no time")









Homo sapiens-

Birth - 3 years old ~ Complete and total care

3 - 17 years old ~ Strict disiplin, Many chores and basic rigoureous education

17 - 19 years old ~ Relaxed disipin, few chores, education is geared towards indiduals personal interestes, entheogenic intation into adulthood.




After the person's entheogenic intation they are considered an adult, they must be at least 17 to began the path to adulthood.

Ceromony-

Pretend your an animal of your choosing.
Fire dance
Make Music with weird instruments
Howl at the Moon
Absorb the stars, mists and moonlight
meditate
Spiritwalk- Walk through the wilderness at night
Lie in comfotable contemplation
Title: Re:
Post by: boomer2 on December 12, 2008, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"Essential Entheogens-

Psilocybian Mushrooms ~ “Teonanacatl”

No modern Indians in contemporary Mexico who use Psilocybe species for divination in healing and curing ceremonies with mushrooms which contain the alkaloids psilocybine/psilocine mushrooms know of or use the term Teonanácatl to describe any of the more than 32 known species used ceremoniously.

boomer2
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2008, 10:40:36 PM
I know boomer, you told me, but I'm keeping the name unless you can think of a better one...
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: boomer2 on December 14, 2008, 02:39:37 AM
Quote from: "Teotzlcoatl"I know boomer, you told me, but I'm keeping the name unless you can think of a better one...


So far, several mycologists and DNA experts have reclassified the Mexican species used by Indians in ritual healing and curing ceremonies according to their clade identification as to now be known as Psychedelia, for instance, Psychedelia mexicana, Psychedelia caerulescens, Psychedelia aztecorum, Psychedelia mazatecorum, etc, a system naming which I and many others who study the genus Psilocybe do not agree with.

And the sad thing about the clade classification for registering thee mushrooms in the DNA bank apply only to Psilocybe species used by the indigenous peoples of Oaxaca and several other states in and around the region.

I have used the word, Teonanácatl, in the title of my scholarly journal publication,

"Teonanácatl: Ancient Shamanic Mushroom Names of Mesoamerica and other regions of the world, with primary names of 7-9 tribal groups who now employ over 34 species of Psilocybe.

In my book, I also discuss the original words form which Teonanácatl may have been derived from in the writings of Bernadino de Sahagún and Diego Duran Francisco Hernandez, and other España historians, botanists and clergy of the new found Catholic church which just kicked ass with the Moors, ejecting them from España after 700-900 years of Moorish Rule.

boomer2
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Zaka on December 17, 2008, 05:28:18 AM
Irie Teotz,
A couple of additional items you may or may not have thought of;
Cohoba platter and blow pipe
Duho/ Dujo sacred Chieftains stool.

Plus I disagree with something;
QuoteHomo sapiens-

Birth - 3 years old ~ Complete and total care

3 - 17 years old ~ Strict disiplin, Many chores and basic education

17 - 19 years old ~ Relaxed disipin, few chores, education is geared towards indiduals personal interestes, entheogenic intation into adulthood.

Well I disagree with the 17 year old bit.....I rekkon you put this age, as a legal disclaimer.....
I would say 3-13 years.
Also I would say that the chores can start earlier.
My son got a broom with the handle cut down for his 1st B/day, a machete blunted off for 2nd B/day, for his 3rd B/day he'll get a complete socket set, imperial & metric, to start his math. I was thinking Snap-on with a lifetime guarantee.
Also monogamy is over rated and un-natural. Commitment is far more important. I liked the "considered married until child is adult" bit.

I was waking up an Italian fella with the Ian Xel 2012 lecture, and he asked me what will I do on 11.11am 21/12/2012.
I instinctively replied "One mad ayahuasca brew"
This got me thinking about a recipe for the ultimate 2012 ascension brew.
I know you can come up with one Teotz. Something strong without being fatal. :mrgreen:
Hey if it's going to happen, may as well be halfway there.
It'll be at about sunrise here, so a ceremony on top of a mountain means a head start on the rest of the planet. :smoke2:  :e_wink:  :twisted:  :e_smile:  :smoke:3  

Respect
Z
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on December 20, 2008, 01:36:01 AM
2012 Entheogens-

#1- 250g Caapi + 25g Diplopterys + 100g Psychotria viridis + 3g 'Shrooms

#2- 13 Peyote buttons + 5g 'Shrooms

#3- 7g Salvia quid + Oral Iboga


:)

See ya on the mountain!
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2008, 03:17:21 AM
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Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on December 28, 2008, 12:20:31 AM
Create Night-time and Day-time cold medications with ethnobotanicals. Ethno-painkillers, sedation, etc.

'Shrooms + Cocoa, Nutmeg, Peppers,

Discover true cocoa mix, shrooms, etc.

study plants from the bible.





True cocoa-

'Shrooms, slightly dried

Cocoa fruit (Prepared in what way?)

Corn (Dried I would assume but prepared in what way? Ground and fermented like beer?)

cacahuaxochitl






Suspected Botanicals-

Erythrina mulungu

Nigella sativa

Spilanthe acmella aka olracea (Toothache plant)

Tagente lucida (mexican marygold)

Withania somnifera (Indian ginseng)

Rungia klossii

scutellaria nana

Epipactis helleborine


Super Fruits-

Açaí (Euterpe oleracea)
Blueberry (Vaccinium angustifolium and Vaccinium corymbosum)
Cranberry (Vaccinium macrocarpon)
Goji (Lycium barbarum)
Mangosteen (Garcinia mangostana)
Noni (Morinda citrifolia)
Pomegranate (Punica granatum)
Sea-buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides)
acerola (Barbados cherry, Malpighia emarginata, Malpighia glabra)[58]
bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus)
black raspberry (Rubus occidentalis)
black chokeberry ("aronia", Aronia melanocarpa)
blackcurrant (Ribes nigrum)
sour (tart) cherry (Prunus cerasus)
cupuaçu (Theobroma grandiflorum)
durian (Durio kutejensis)
lingonberry (Vaccinium vitis-idaea)
longan (Dimocarpus longan)
lychee (Litchi chinensis)
mango (Mangifera indica)
muscadine grape (Vitis rotundifolia)
Service Berry (Amelanchier alnifolia)
wild cherry (Prunus avium)







Seven Holy Scents; Shamanic Incense-

Commiphora myrrha ~ "Myrrh"

Boswellia sacra ~ "Frankincense"

Styrax benzoin ~ "Benzoin resin"

Bursera microphylla ~ "Copal"

Santalum album ~ "Sandalwood"



and possibly Machilus thunbergii ~ "Makko" as a binder.




Smudging bundle Incense-

Salvia apiana ~ "White Sage"

Hierochloe odorata ~ "Sweetgrass"

Nicotiana species ~ "Tobacco"

Salvia divinorum ~ "Diviner’s Sage"

Calea zacatechichi ~ "Dream Herb"

Psychotria species ~ "Chacruna"

Nelumbo nucifera &/or Nymphaea caerulea ~ "Lotus"

Erythroxylum species ~ "Coca leaf"

Lactuca virosa ~ "Wild Lettuce"

Verbascum blattaria ~ "Moth Mullein"

Mentha species ~ "Mint"

Arctostaphylos uva-ursi ~ "BearBerrry"


Other Insense-

Bursera graveolens ~ "Palo Santo"

Psychoactive insense-

Peganum harmala ~ "Syrian Rue"




fugincide inscetice-

Tobacco

Preying mantis

Lady bugs





Make my own trail-mix & toothpaste.
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: dogbane26 on December 30, 2008, 01:16:20 AM
~Do not have any Solanaceae plants in or near your home. Cultivate only Nicotiana species. Always wear gloves when handling them.

I dont agree with that statement.  While it is true that some species in this family are toxic or specific parts are more toxic than others for a particular species,   I still don't think you should generalize like that saying the family as a whole is bad except for the genus; Nicotiana spp.  

Withania somnifera (Ashwaganha) is a very useful plant.  Anti-oxidant and adaptogen used in ayurvedic medicine.    Indian ginseng is another name since it is used for a similar purpose.  Withanolides found in the leaves are similar to ginsenosides found in ginseng roots.  

I agree though that I am hesitant to use Solanaceous plants since many of the members are toxic.    

Many plant families have toxic members but it is my belief that usually toxic plant families also hold promise for medicinals to help us.    

Apocynaceae is a very toxic family but we have found anti-cancer drugs from the madagascar periwinkle.  

Hoodia gordonii belongs to Asclepiadaceae which is a sister family to Asclepiadaceae but i am not sure how safe it is to use since Asclepiadaceae or milkeweed family is known for its cardiac poisons.  

I tasted fresh cut hoodia and it was very bitter.   It could just be alkaloids or glycosides but im not sure if its safe even though it is used in dietary supplements.  

There are many toxic families but I think Solanaceae isn't the worst of them.  

Apiaceae( carrot family) which i don't like is probably one of the worst.  

Poison hemlock killed socrates, and there is another member that if u get the sap in your eyes it causes blindness or on your skin it makes you much more prone to ultraviolet light and you will burn if u are in the sun and it wont go away for 3 years.  

Yes our good old friend the carrot has alot of relatives that i think are worse than our good old friend the potato (solanaceae)!
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on December 30, 2008, 01:03:58 PM
QuoteDo not have any Solanaceae plants in or near your home. Cultivate only Nicotiana species. Always wear gloves when handling them.

That was from a long time ago and I now know its silly.... I changed "Solanaceae" to "piosonous".
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on January 05, 2009, 11:56:40 PM
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http://www.loveleafgarden.com/catalog/ (http://www.loveleafgarden.com/catalog/) (Ayahuasca and General Ethnobotanicals)

http://kadasgarden.com/index.html (http://kadasgarden.com/index.html) (Peyote and General Ethnobotanicals)

http://www.peyoteway.org/ (http://www.peyoteway.org/) (Peyote Church)

http://www.realkava.com/index.html (http://www.realkava.com/index.html) (Awesome Kava)
Title: Re: Teotzlcoatl's Junk
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2009, 12:22:31 AM
Suspected Entheogenic, Psychoactive and/or Medicinal Cacti-


Of North America-

Ariocarpus agavoides
Ariocarpus fissuratus
Ariocarpus kotschoubeyanus
Ariocarpus retusus
Astrophytum asterias
Astrophytum capricorne
Astrophytum myriostigma
Aztekium ritterii
Carnegiea gigantea
Coryphantha spp. (?)
Coryphantha compacta (Coryphantha palmeri?)
Coryphantha elephantidens
Coryphantha macromeris
Coryphantha macromeris ssp. runyonii
Echinocactus platyacanthus (Echinocactus visnaga)
Echinocereus salm-dyckianus (Echinocereus scheeri)
Echinocereus polyacanthus
Epithalantha micromeris
Gymnocalycium spp. (?)
Leuchtenbergia principis
Lophophora williamsii
Lophophora diffusa
Mammillaria spp. (?)
Mammillaria grahamii
Mammillaria heyderi (Mammillaria heyderi v. gummifera, Mammillaria gummifera)
Mammillaria (Dolichothele) longimamma
Mammillaria pectinifera (Solisia pectinata)
Mammillaria (Mamillopsis) senilis
Mammillaria sonorensis (Mammillaria craigii)
Obregonia denegrii
Pachycereus pecten-aboriginum
Pachycereus pringlei
Pelecyphora aselliformis
Pelecyphora strobiliformis
Strombocactus disciformis
Turbinicarpus lophophoroides
Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele
Turbinicarpus pseudopectinatus (Pelecyphora pseudopectinata)
Turbinicarpus schmiedickeanus

Of South America-


Armatocereus laetus "Pishicol"
Browningia (?)
Epostoa lanata (?)
Matucana madisoniorum
Neoraimondia macrostibas
Stenocereus spp. (?)
Trichocereus species



I have recently obtain Echinocereus scheeri... I was wondering about it and Echinocereus triglochidiatus v. neomexicanus potential psychoactivty? What of the other Echinocereus?

Will somebody tell me about Echinocactus and the mythology behind it?

Which Mammillaria and Coryphantha should I include? What are the most likely psychoactive canaidates?

From the Turbinicarpus genus I include the species- lophophoroides, pseudomacrochele, pseudopectinatus and schmiedickeanus... are these sufficent or are other cacti of the genus recongized as suspected psychoactive or medicinals?

I believe one of the best possible uses of these cacti may be combinding them with Trichocereus to create a "Peyote-like" experience.

I could also see them being ingested with Lophophora.

Armatocereus laetus "Pishicol" is reputed to be entheogen... What of it and the other suspected psychoactive columnars like Stenocereus and Browningia?

I was also wondering about the psychoactivy of Gymnocalycium and as well...

What about these reports of Epostoa lanata being used like "San Pedro"?

Is Coryphantha rosea worth looking into?

Leuchtenbergia principis is a crazy looking cactus... is it really psychoactive?

How about Pterocereus gaumeri?

This cactus Gymnocalycium gibbosum is said to contain mescaline.

So is Islaya minor...

What of Chinoa?

I have heard that Stenocereus are not a good idea to ingest... but they do contain mescaline...

Stetsonia coryne?

Is there any evidence for use of any of theses cacti among native peoples?

Does anybody care to make any comments on the suspected psychoactive columners?

I see reports of Stenocereus (Ritterocereus) hystrix being comparable to Lophophora all over the net...

It seems as though some sort of testing was done (they normally reference this) Does anybody have any information on any test done on these cacti? Or any knowledge of their general psychoactivty?


If anybody has any reports of any of the above cacti other than Lophophora and Trichocereus please send me a PM, even if it's a friend-of-a-friend report.



So....

We know so far (due to the efforts of others like Mr.Smith, Mr.Trout, and many more) that some Mammilliria are active, and some Ariocarpus have medicinal vaules.

Seems pretty damn simple to me.

We've already discovered some new medicinals and psychoactives!

Everybody we can (by standing on the shoulders of those that came before us) discover the ancient lost knowledge of the medicinal and psychoactive cacti of Mexico and South America!

I'll be writting a bioassy report of Ariocarpus fissuratus, ingested by two people on two different occasions.

The bioassy was positive in both cases.

More details to come.


Actually I'm preforming human bioassys of most of the above species.


I think the best way to go about doing a "Lost Peyote" bioassy would be to grow from seed or otherwise obtain a fair number of the cactus in questions. Let's say your going to bioassy Strombocactus disciformis. Well you sow a fair number of Strombocactus seeds and grow them, while at the same time obtaining live specimens, grow all your cacti to mature flowering age and then began ingestions.

I believe the best way to bioassy the "Lost Peyotes" would be the following-

1) Ingest one large mature specimen. Some other methods of ingestion might be ideal for the intial bioassy (such as smoking Ariocarpus turberles, which does work)

2) Ingest one large mature specimen with a small amount of Trichocereus cactus of a known potency (To study it's possible use as a companion plant to Lophophora, being ingested along with it.)

3) Ingest a few medium to large adult plants.

4) Ingest many adult plants.



Be sure to not use all of your cacti for bioassy, keep a good genetic diversity for each species (Some "Lost Peyotes" species may only have ONE active strain) and always remember, many of these species are close to extiction, I would encourage people to donate their money and time to Peyote Conservation funds and I think it should be the goal of each person who comes in contact with this wonderful cacti to restore their former glory in the wild, my dream is to one day release many of my specimens back into the wild when I'm old and grey and near the end of my days...


If any specimens should rot or otherwise die, then this material can be kept for bioassy, just write down the date when it was dried and other information.


And what's this I hear of Trichocereus flowers being active???


http://www.mfaint.demon.co.uk/cactus/tu ... .html#what (http://www.mfaint.demon.co.uk/cactus/turbo/alkaloids.html#what)


~ 'Coatl ~


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 "White Peyote"-


Quote:
The Fabled White Peyote of The Grand Canyon and Four Corners Area-

Archaeological discoveries in Arizona and Southern Texas indicate that peyote has been used by the Southwestern Tribes and their ancestors since antiquity. Peyote has been found carbon dated as 10,000 years old in caves in Southern Texas and Arizona. The mummified samples did not resemble modern peyote and were larger and more domed in comparison to modern populations of Lophophora williamsii. These samples also contained up to 6% mescaline by weight even after thousands of years in a desiccated state. Modern Lophophora varieties average 3% mescaline in comparison. The Dine (Navajo) oral traditions and those of other Southwest tribes indicate that a cold tolerant, high altitude variety of peyote existed in the area of the Grand Canyon in ancient times[citation needed], called "white peyote" which was rumored to be of cosmic potency.

Recent discoveries and botanical evidence indicates modern Lophophora species may in fact be divergent hybrids of Lophophora diffusa and a species recently named Lophophora brackii[citation needed], a high altitude domed "white" peyote with 'Z' patterns and articulated ribbing that originates from a single population confined to a mountain near Viesca, in the northern state of Coahuila, Mexico. Modern Lophophora varieties exhibit pollen structure which ranges from 3 pored pollen from its western ranges up to 9 pored pollen in the Eastern Range where Lophophora decipiens grows under extremely arid conditions, characteristics of a natural hybrid. Lophophora diffusa more closely resembles primitive cacti than the other Lophophora varieties and this species also exists as an isolated population in a mountainous area and is more cold tolerant[citation needed] than Lophophora williamsii populations.

-from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_Church)






Quote:
From Roley's iLophophora Blog-

If you are referring to the "Fabled White Peyote" section of the "Native American Church" Wikipedia article, it's important to note the word "fabled". The information in this part of the NAC article is wildly unsubstantiated and should not be trusted - at least not before it is supported by serious references (which is highly unlikely to happen). M.S. Smith ventures as far as calling it crappola





Quote:
Comment by Mr. Smith- from http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthre ... ite+peyote (http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12211&highlight=white+peyote)


L. brackii is named after Steve Brack of Mesa Garden, and he thought it sort of funny when I asked him about L. brackii. The Lophophora with the "Z" pattern, or more properly with raised diamond shaped tubercles (which give the apperence of the laughably discribed "Z pattern", is the higher elevation (this is a relative tern in relation to the surrounding low altitude flatlands) L. decipiens collected by Brack from near Viesca. It looks as though the plant Brack has claimed is L. decipiens is being claimed by others as L. brackii. L. decipiens and L. fricii are in my opinion a single L. williamsii subspecies, this even though they may represent two varieties of growth within the subspecies.

Navajo oral tradition could easily be referring to a non-Lophophora species of sacred cacti. Just because "L. brackii" (tehehehe) grows in a higher altitude in Mexico quite clearly doen't mean it, or any other Lophophora for that matter, can handle the much cooler temps in the Grand Canyon region.

~Michael~




Quote:
More commonts by Mr.Smith-

It should be of interest though to know that L. decipiens, a plant that that comes from the same immediate region and is pretty much the same as L. fricii with some minor variability from their particular niches, has been shown to have pellotine to mescaline concentrations similar to L. williamsii.


This is Lophophora fricii from the Viesca Coahuila area, supposedly it lives in the low-land while Lophophora decipiens var. brackii only grows in cracks on a few jutting rocky hills rising above the low-lands.



The above cactus apparently grows in the low-lands, near a lagoon?


Quote:
Lophophora fricii Habermann

Fricii- designated after A.V. Fric 1882-1944 a
czech collector of cacti

In habitat Lophophora fricii is a very mutable species. It´s hardly to find two similar plants at one location. Particularly in terms of the bloom they are different at the locations.

Distribution-
This species grows around the lagoon near Viesca in the state of Coahuila, Mexico.



Lophophora fricii forma albiflora

Distribution-
A specific place in habitat near Viesca in the state of Coahuila, Mexico.
It´s only a white flowering form of Lophophora fricii.


Lophophora williamsii var. decipiens Croizat

decipiens = deceptive

Distribution-
The location of this plants is unknown.

Plants, accordingly the description grows near El Amparo in the state Coahuila, Mexico.
This plants are counted among the form sphere from Lophophora fricii.


Looks like Viesca has more than one type of Lophophora fricii, and certainly a number of different strains and/or species of Lophophorae.

My question is... How did Lophophora decipiens var. brackii become know as "White Peyote", I thought the "White Peyote" was in the Grand Canyon area? It is much further south where Lophophora decipiens var. brackii grow, correct? Perhaps Lophophora decipiens var. brackii was part of the South range of these cacti and now are the only ones left in existance.

People were obvisouly using this peyote 1000s of years in that area...

The way it seems to me is that Lophophora brackii and "White Peyote" are just in the same article together... is there any other connection between them? Except that Lophophora decipiens var. brackii is possibly an actual white cactus.

I believe many more cacti were used other than Lophophora, I also believe different strains (some now extinct) were used in times long passed...

Why could Lophophorae's range have not extended into the Grand Canyon region in times long passed, when climate was a bit different back then, or even different varations of Lophophora that has now gone extinct?


Quote:
I also must note that the Tarahumara stament that other hikuri were servants to hikuli walula saeliami does not have anything to do with species classification, but purely plant size, and a large plant that grew towards the Rio Grande, not Viesca. And this not even considering its likely mythological basis, even if a large plant.



Perhaps, the "Hikuli Walula Saeliami" Cactus is the fabled "White Peyote"?

Does anybody have pics of whiteish, greyish or silverish Lophophora cacti? Or even just pics of different types of Lophophora decipiens cacti?

A very inteligent cactus grower stated to me in an email-

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I have some (Lophophora) fricii that are quite pale and silver grey white like, I imagine these must be something like that but a lighter shade?


What kind of argument can be made for the distictiveness of Lophophora brackii / Lophophora decepiens var. brackii as a species and not just a strain???

Does anybody know ANYTHING esle about this cactus?

Normally these myths have at least some truth to them...

... Sounds like an interesting cultivator.

Does anybody have any seeds or plants from Viesca, Coahuila, Mexico? I'd love to see pics, or even just hear a description of the botanical. How about any "super-strains" of Lophophora? High potency? Strange rib-patterns? Cold-hardy?



This will may turn out to be another "wild-cactus-chase"...

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'Coatl  Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:03:36 PM      
 
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 My Personal Specimens "Peyotes" and "Lost Peyotes"-

Turbinicarpus lausseri (= Turbinicarpus pseudomacrochele var. lausseri) ~ 1.5"+ plant 9-10 years old-







Lophophora williamsii ~ "True Peyote"-







Astrophytum asterias "False Peyote"-





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FelixsMom  Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:57:16 PM    
 

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Quote from: 'CoatlMy Personal Specimens "Peyotes" and "Lost Peyotes"-

WOW - COATL Awesome research project!

I have a friend who is considering some Trichocereus peruvianus bioassays sometime soon, and have heard mixed reports. Will be paying attention to your reports.

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'Coatl  Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:48:05 PM      
 
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 Trichocereus peruvianus has many different strains, some entheogenically active, other not so much.

It HAS been proven tho.

Do NOT order a standard Trichocereus "peruvianus" from your standard run-of-the-mill ethnobotanical companys, they will send you a Trichocereus cuzcoensis which is almost completely inactive. Ask them if their Trichocereus peruvianus looks anything like Trichocereus cuzcoensis, if they don't know what the hell your talking about, don't buy from them.

Trichocereus bridgesii is your best bet if you don't want to go potent clone huntin'.

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FelixsMom  Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:25:23 PM    
 

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"Trichocereus bridgesii is your best bet if you don't want to go potent clone huntin'.

Thanks Coatl, Roger that! I'll pass this on too.

- Not that clone huntin'is a BAD idea. I'm eager to hear how all goes, and if I remain unemployed much longer I may just join your quest in earnest...

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 No clone/strain huntin' is a great idea! I love it! But it's only a good idea if you like growing cacti, which I do very much.




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 'Coatl wrote:
No clone/strain huntin' is a great idea! I love it! But it's only a good idea if you like growing cacti, which I do very much.





Hahhah, well my (extremely limited) experience with cacti growing has taught me one thing:they're friendly little plants to grow, for people who are not necessarily good at gardening!

They are almost completely able to take care of themselves. It's almost impossible to kill a cactus plant with neglect, seems to me! (However, I am guessing that to grow them to be healthy and entheogenically correct that your gardening technique IS important!)

I have only had one experience to base this on, but it is encouraging as far as future plans. I received a living cactus gift once when I was in the hospital. My Mom took it home and it stayed in her kitchen, with no particular attention for 12 years until she got rid of it when they moved. That one cactus spawned babies for over a decade!

Here's a factoid some people may not know:
You, being a Cacti Expert probably are aware that Cacti grow abundantly in the jungle, not just the desert! My husband's family is from Rio, Brasil and we go there every year now.

One of the most shocking things for me, as a gringo, was to see the huge numbers of Amazonian cacti flourishing in the jungle.(I have not tried munching on any wild ones YET)

It still blows my mind.

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 I'm certainly no "expert", but I did know that... read "A Cactus Oddessy", it's a wonderful book!

I wouldn't go round munching on wild cacti unless you know exactly what the are!

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FelixsMom  Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:06:22 PM    
 

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 'Coatl wrote:
I'm certainly no "expert", but I did know that... read "A Cactus Oddessy", it's a wonderful book!

I wouldn't go round munching on wild cacti unless you know exactly what the are!


U-Bet I'd never ever eat ANY new wild plants without a guide. So far, I've recognized some I believe to be edible - I think it's prickly pear growing all over on the Rio beaches. Not a definite I.D. Just a guess, but will be looking for pictures. Prickly pear's used in cooking; no entheogen here. But there are zillions of varieties up in the rainforest & mountains that I have seen which I do not recognize at all. Very interesting flora of all kinds there of course.
When I return Jan. '09 I plan to be a little better prepared ahead to do some research of these cacti and other jungle plants. Will look for Cactus Oddessy, thx. intriguing title.

Space is at a premium in my home, and this is something I would need to do indoors in the much cooler climate here. These beauties of yours look so nice in the pots, and cacti are pretty grower friendly in general. I have a cat but he doesn't bother my other plants.
HOWEVER if I had little budding and flowering jewelled cacti as pretty as yours, their beauty would surely save them from being munched, powdered or any other similarly undignified fate.



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'Coatl  Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:34:34 PM      
 
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 Felix! You REALLY need Cactus Oddysey! It's basically about exactly what your planning!

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 From what I can tell there are at least two kinds of Lophophora decipens, possibly more...

Lophophora decipiens forma. brackii and Lophophora decipiens...

One with raised diamond "Z" shaped turbercled ribs and the other with diffused non-tubercled ribs.

Give me some time and ill edit and make a full post.

So White peyote is one... and another is..? I donno, something esle.


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 i once at a handful of mammilaria fruits which i picked in the cacti department in a hardware store . i couldn't sleep that night. they got me pretty speedy. don't ask me what kind it was tho. it was different strains mixed i think. but all mammilaria.

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 Interesting. Check those species for me if you can.



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 http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/i ... =0&start=0 (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17797&st=0&start=0)

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/i ... =17627&hl= (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17627&hl=)

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http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/i ... =0&start=0 (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19397&st=0&start=0)

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/i ... =0&start=0 (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18198&st=0&start=0)

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/i ... =0&start=0 (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17077&st=0&start=0)

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/i ... 18349&st=0 (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18349&st=0)

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 Here we go... I hope this one doesn't get deleted (I think my last one was?)

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 Wow,

I didn't realize how many cacti's are psycoactive! Good info for sure.

I for one won't be deleting this thread.

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 Well why the heck did y'all delete my last one?!

That was the only reason I didn't post this sooner!

Ya gotta give ole 'Coatl some time man! I'm very busy, but I got some good info!

I realize it's a cluster of info and questions right now... but I'm working on a book (Which will be free and posted online)

I'm also doing human bioassys of many of the above...

We know Mammiliaria craigii and Ariocarpus species are truely psychoactive, I'm sure there are many more.


Mammiliaria craigii is nice, I like it better than MDMA, very similar.


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 Hey 'Coatl,

Nice list of cacti!

I was the one who deleted your last post, it was done since the first post only contained hype and no information at al. Also the use of words like "fuck", etc. shouldn't be used at the DMT-Nexus.

Thing was, when deleting a first post in a thread you delete the whole thread so your next posts containing the Cacti information was lost as well, sorry for that. As long as you don't post hype and don't use bad language your posts are safe.


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 'Coatl wrote:
Mammiliaria craigii is nice, I like it better than MDMA, very similar.



Sounds quite interesting. Tell me more about the Mammiliaria. Are the psycoactives known? What are the side effects? What about dosages?

My wife and I are looking for legal sensory enhancing, empathogenic compounds. Methylone is the only one that we have found that is even close to MDMA.

Also, I have not had much luck finding a cactus nursery that carries Mammillaria sonorensis (craigii). Can you provide me with a vendor that carries these?

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 I'm REALLY gonna have to work on the cursing, all my other forums allow it, so please forgive me if I slip up, I tend to curse alot in my post, donno why...

Thanks for comin' in and explaining, I apperciate it!




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Are the psycoactives known?



You know... I don't even know what chemicals are in it, I just can't remember at the moment... Nor can I remember a link... sorry...


Never heard of Methylone... is it plant derived? Can ya link me?

I can def. find you a vendor!

Where is a good place for me to post that info? PM me? Or am I ok to post it in the thread? Or... maybe a vendors forum?

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'Coatl  Posted: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:09:42 AM      
 
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 Many of the "Lost Peyotes" contain all the "Lophophora-like" chemicals that Lophophora ~ "Peyote" has, they only lack the mescaline, so adding Trichocereus (mescaline) you can very closely mimic the Lophophora ~ "Peyote" experience without eating 3-7 large beautiful flowering Lophophora.

Here's what I suggest-

3-5 inchs of prep'ed and dried Trichocereus bridgesii

7-9 inchs of prep'ed and dried Trichocereus pachanoi or peruivanus (potent peruvianus, not cuzcoensis)

1-3 "Lost Peyotes" like- Ariocarpus spp., Coryphantha spp., Mammillaria spp., Pelecyphora aselliformis, Turbinicarpus spp.


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 'Coatl wrote:
Many of the "Lost Peyotes" contain all the "Lophophora-like" chemicals that Lophophora ~ "Peyote" has, they only lack the mescaline, so adding Trichocereus (mescaline) you can very closely mimic the Lophophora ~ "Peyote" experience without eating 3-7 large beautiful flowering Lophophora.

Here's what I suggest-

3-5 inchs of prep'ed and dried Trichocereus bridgesii

7-9 inchs of prep'ed and dried Trichocereus pachanoi or peruivanus (potent peruvianus, not cuzcoensis)

1-3 "Lost Peyotes" like- Ariocarpus spp., Coryphantha spp., Mammillaria spp., Pelecyphora aselliformis, Turbinicarpus spp.



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 Trichocereus bridgesii is my favorite Trichocereus. It is really a deeper experience than Pedros or Torchs.

I really like the idea of mimicing peyote using multiple cacti's!

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 Trichocereus bridgesii and espeically Trichocerus bridgesii var. monstrose offer more of the "Peyote-like" chemicals, which may account for its more "Lophophora-like" intoxication, which some prefer.

Trichocereus pachanoi offers a more "MDMA +'shrooms-like" experience in my opinion.

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Q- age/size of lost peyotes to include in the mix
Q- wouldnt heavy brigdesii simulate more peyote like experience over panch./peru.

Q- consider a cactus stew? perhaps in liquid the synergistic effects of full spectrum alkaloids can be better felt instead of digesting different chemicals at different rates

 
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Q- age/size of lost peyotes to include in the mix


Use only mature flowering specimens.


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Q- wouldnt heavy brigdesii simulate more peyote like experience over panch./peru.


Bridgesii already contains (most of) the "Lophophora-like" chemicals, why add more?


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Q- consider a cactus stew? perhaps in liquid the synergistic effects of full spectrum alkaloids can be better felt instead of digesting different chemicals at different rates


I don't think it would make much of a difference.

Good to see you finally on the forums, suicybe, I'm proud of you!
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Thank you. Thank you.
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wtf mate!!!
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Hello?
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teo, syd took the question outa my mouth.
posting threads from another site seems dubious. If you have information you want to share, that's one thing, but what is your reason for posting other people's comments?