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People => The Cave => Topic started by: Tranceman on March 07, 2005, 06:35:34 PM

Title: I allways got a Question.
Post by: Tranceman on March 07, 2005, 06:35:34 PM
Hello all, i have been incarserated against my will for a little while, but im back now.  I have been wondering if there are any plants containing DMT that one can smoke raw with out extract, and can one make a tea out of mamosa H ?

Peace all.

 MAN ITS GREAT TO BE BACK!! :lol:
Title: correct spelling makes a good impression...
Post by: gnrm23 on March 08, 2005, 04:25:05 PM
most folks claim that there are no plants with enough DMT in 'em for a striaght-up trippy smoke...
now, 5meodmt plants may be another story (but 5meodmt isn't dmt, mmkay?

& as for a tea from "mimosa hostilis rootbark" - well, "maybe" for a straight mhrb tea (see "jurema")...
but if you use mhrb & some sort of MAOI-stuff plant (caapi, syrian rue seeds, etc.) - well, then you are getting into the realm of "ayahuasca analogs" & might wanna check out www.ayahuasca.com (http://www.ayahuasca.com) (or not...)
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Post by: Tranceman on March 09, 2005, 07:45:30 PM
Quotebut 5meodmt isn't dmt, mmkay

Ok, what is the difference between dmt and 5meodmt? I thought they were basicly the same thing.

PS: I KNOW I CANT SPELL!!!
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Post by: byrooon on March 10, 2005, 10:18:08 PM
hey... i was incarserated against my will too!
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Post by: byrooon on March 10, 2005, 10:18:51 PM
hey... i was incarserated against my will too!
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Post by: senorsalvia on March 11, 2005, 12:11:46 PM
I'm no chemist and so I can't say what is the difference between DMT vs 5-MEO-DMT..  That said, it has been reported by many that DMT is by far a more visual "trippy", and rewarding experience...  5-MEO, on the other hand, has been stated as being 'quite, quite potent; but the 'trip is one that seems devoid of any value.  No euphoria, no colors/trails etc, and the mind set while on 5-MEO seems to be disassociated into a realm of 'blankness', as opposed to the 'learning' and spiritual growth one can attain from DMT...........  Check EROWID for more details and read experience reports.........  Happy journey :lol: ---------  senorsal
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Post by: Tranceman on March 11, 2005, 01:18:02 PM
Thank you senor!  mmmm.....i need to research more....
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Post by: senorsalvia on March 11, 2005, 02:55:59 PM
Yeah Mon, research 'tis good for the soul :lol: -----   On a side note:  Unless you can get your 5-MEO from a chem supplier, most of the plant sources that can be extracted to yield a reasonably effective dose of 5-MEO will also yield bufotenine along withe the '5'...   From all I have heard, Bufo is not such a nice journey...  'Course, certain toad lickers will disagree :wink: ----------  senorsal