I've heard of them used in a smoking mixture with acacia extract, but was simply wondering wether I should save the leaves I plucked off my cuttings.
yes they are reported to be 3x as potent as the vine. smoking leaf is a smoother smoke.Recomeded to smoke the cappi and then the acacia.
I've heard it said that the leaves contain the same substances as the vine. I never heard from anyone who enjoyed smoking the leaves. You could use leaves in an ayahuasca mixture.
Imagine all the extra tannins ... I'd imagine a brew of leaves would be hard to keep down.
get some DMT some caapi leaf
crumble the dried leaf to desired smoking size
get some alcohol, Noli prefers Everclear, she never uses Iso.
do you math, lets say you have 3g caapi, you want to make a 30% DMT 70% caapi batch of Changa
4g caapi multiplied by .3 equals 1.2g DMT
40% equals .4
50% equals .5
and so on
get a small glass, add your caapi leaf to it
then pour just enough alcohol to cover the leaf
now add the DMT
stir very well, and keep stirring untill al the DMT is disolved by the alcohol, and mixed thouroughly
now you let the alcohol evaporate
make sure your leaf is dry
take a pinch and place it in your pipe
puff
Enjoy your Changa!
The Changa Herbs
below is from Mycotopia.net
Banisteriopsis Caapi - This is probably one of the key ingredients in Changa due to its MAOI properties. The leaves may constitute the majority of the dried herb infusion. Smoking the dried leaves can potentiate tryptamines in much lower doses than those required for oral ingestion. Vine leaves alone may account for the considerable difference in effect between Changa and freebase DMT smoked alone. Because the leaves can be so variable in their strength, small amounts of this vine's bark may also be included to boost the MAOI effect.
Calea Zacatechichi-Also known as "Dream Herb", Calea is believed to increase lucid dreams. It's also reported to increase one's ability to recall the content of dreams. Due to the speculated relationship between DMT and dream-like states, the Dream Herb may have a positive synergy
Heimia Salicifolia-Heimia's effects seem to be controversial, due to conflicts between historical information and modern bio-assays. However it is reported that if activated properly, through fermentation during drying, Heimia can enhance the effects of various other actives. Effects of Heimia include an increase in vision and hearing ability, and audio hallucinations.
Justicia Pectoralis-Used by South American Indians, Justica Pectoralis (Mashi Hiri) contains the alkaloids Betaine and Umbelliferone. Dried Mashi Hiri contains coumarins, which give the Changa a smoother taste and a nice smell. There have also been reports that Justica Pectoralis can "smooth" the DMT experience.
Passiflora Incarnata-A mild MAOI. Probably used in place of Banisteriopsis Caapi when it's not available
Peganum Harmala-Syrian Rue seeds may also be a component of Changa, but are probably only used when vine leaves are not available. When crushed, the seeds of Peganum Harmala can be smoked for an MAOI effect. Crushed Syrian Rue seeds don't burn easily which would have a negative effect on the usability of any smoking mixture. Even though the beta-carboline content per weight is much higher in Syrian Rue seeds, there has been reports claiming Banisteriopsis Caapi's beta-carbolines are more potent when smoked.
Salvia Divinorum-If you dare! . Salvia does add an interesting and individual edge to the experience. The effect heavily depends on the proportion to which the leaves are included.
Turnera Diffusa-Damiana's inclusion in some varieties of Changa has been reported. Whether Damiana has any activity is a subject of debate. If nothing else, Damiana would add a unique smell and taste to any smoking mixture.
(the above from dmt.tribe.net)
A friend in peru told me that Leaves are used in place of vine for "beginners." It is supposed to give a more gentle experience.
Salvia divinorum does seem to synergize well with DMT, and has on rare occasion been taken with/while on Ayahuascas. However, do keep in mind such a synergy can be >3X for both the SD and Ayahuasca.
all of the above
but see this data set
look at the roots
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_onl ... ysis.shtml (http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/ayahuasca_apa/aya_sec2_b_caapi_analysis.shtml)
yeah you see it. lots of interesting things going on there
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