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Plant Matters => The Shamans Hut => Topic started by: Heyoka on July 15, 2007, 05:28:46 PM

Title: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: Heyoka on July 15, 2007, 05:28:46 PM
Anyone done any experimentation with this plant or used it in aya analog brews?
Title: Re: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: Juicemonkey on January 30, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
nothing to share on extracts

funny how Harmala alks are illegal here, legal there
Iboga legal here, illegal there

anyway...
if ANYone can source lespedeza seed
id love to hear from you

apart from being a beautiful plant
its also just plain not accessible where i am
so no study can occur
Title: Re: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: Zaka on February 07, 2009, 12:31:19 PM
Is this the plant?
If so I maybe able to get some seeds for you.
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Respect
Zaka
Title: Re: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: gnrm23 on May 03, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
jlhudsonseeds (dot) net has 'em...
Title: Re: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: Enki Gnemo on September 08, 2010, 07:08:42 PM
The only time I have ever come across this plant, was behind my house in Lafayette, Colorado - right next to coal creek.  It has to be like one of the first plant if not the only plant that seemed to call out to me from like 15 feet away, and I looked at it, and had a lil moment.  It was so vibrant with its turqousish leaves and purple flower... If I ever go back there...
Title: Re: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: blue rhizome on October 05, 2010, 09:21:30 AM
^ That's very interesting, Enki Gnemo, because I too have felt a distinct call from this plant...

A couple years ago I was hiking through a small state park/reservation in Missouri and happened upon a small patch of this plant. It was not in bloom, I'd never seen it before, and had no idea what it was. But I felt very clearly that it was calling my attention to it - I don't think I've felt anything so unambiguous from any other living plant...

Once back home, I was able to identify it rather quickly as a species of Lespedeza, which I'd never heard of. A little more probing revealed the presence, in certain species, of 5-meo-dmt and strange things like lespedamin! Of course, it all made sense now!

The next year I went back, and not only had the Lespedeza proliferated, but it was in blossom, pink & white, so it seems probable that it could be L. bicolor.

Interestingly, there seemed to be a genetic variant growing amongst the 'standard' Lespedeza - maybe ~10% of the plants had very thin 'linear' leaves instead of oval 'elliptic' ones.

I have not yet harvested any plant material, as I suspect that anything worthwhile is concentrated in the roots, and don't wish to disturb the healthy forest community in which I found them.

It certainly seems to be a plant worthy of further investigation, if only for the strength of its call!  :shock:  :o
Title: Re: Lespedeza Bicolor extraction attempts?
Post by: gnrm23 on November 11, 2010, 07:42:05 AM
desired alkaloids are reported in foliage as well...