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Plant Matters => The Rain Forest => Topic started by: Danzick on June 27, 2007, 11:58:38 AM

Title: Cloning gels
Post by: Danzick on June 27, 2007, 11:58:38 AM
I'm about to enter the modern age and trade in my old rooting powder for cloning gel.  It turns out there are several to choose from, Clonex, Olivia's, Rootech, etc.   Anyone have experience with these that could make a recommendation?  I've spent a couple hours googling these things just trying to compare ingredient lists, and I'm worn out trying to decide.  I suspect they are all much the same, but hope to get some advice from those wiser than me.
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Post by: laughingwillow on June 27, 2007, 12:52:16 PM
While I don't claim to be wiser than anyone, I've used rootech AND powder with good results. (Make cutting immediately dip in gel and then into the powder.) I'm pretty sure Varj told me once that the main difference between the rooteck and the more expensive brands is the addition of an anti-fungal? agent in the more spendy versions. And as I've had no fungal problems so far, I've stuck with the effective but cheaper product.

lw
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Post by: Danzick on June 27, 2007, 04:51:02 PM
Thanks lw.  I saw that Olivia's has a fungicide (don't know what) and I think Clonex has one as well (once again, no idea what).  Rootech was very vague about their formulation except for the percentage of IBA.  This raises another question, as to whether the fungicide makes much difference, and if so, which one are they using?
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Post by: Stonehenge on June 27, 2007, 07:57:22 PM
I've been using clonex but I get about the same results with or without.
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Post by: laughingwillow on June 28, 2007, 09:02:24 AM
I once ran out of gel in the middel of a cloning project. Most of the plants rooted, but it was very evident which ones got the gel. They had much greater root mass by the time they were transplanted into soil.....

lw
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Post by: catfish on July 20, 2007, 02:18:03 AM
a lot of formulations use Thiram
a dithiocarbamate:
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jmpr/jm ... 67pr32.htm (http://www.inchem.org/documents/jmpr/jmpmono/v067pr32.htm)
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Post by: Danzick on July 20, 2007, 12:21:29 PM
Thanks catfish, I'll check that out.
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Post by: Azarius on August 07, 2007, 05:00:36 PM
I have a bottle of Clonex ive never used, and a caapi cutting in a glass of water with small leaves coming out but no roots, and green mildew-like stuff is growing along the stem... does anyone have any experience rooting caapi cuttings w/clonex? or any other method recommendations?

Thnx!
-A
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Post by: Stonehenge on August 08, 2007, 05:13:57 PM
Caapi can be tough to clone. I've started using my clonex again but as usual, it doesn't seem to make much difference