Hey all....
Ive been registered here for a while now, mainly just reading others posts and reports...getting used to a new forum.
(Still havent found a ''hello n intros'' board (as with most other forums im on), so i thought id post here. (especially as quite a few of you already seem to know each other!)
Well, a little about me a guess...ive been interested in Entheogens and Psychedelics for several years now.....(it all started with some Psilocibin Lib Caps aged 15........and has continued with me making an Ally of DiMiTri and eventually getting into extractions and other preparations.......lol )........ Having been a psy trance DJ for 10 years ive come across most psychedelics that are available in the UK....BUT rapidly grew to hate the drug taking part of our scene (too many kids running round with a belly full of AmPhet and LSD, trying to change the world and believing theyve solved all the cosmic puzzles.... (lol)..
I just wasnt into the mass drug taking scene...What always interested me more was smaller psychedlic gatherings and trips shared amongst good friends and similarilly shamanically minded people. ... I just love to hang out and share knowledge!!!
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so...i guess thats why im here.
Hopefully get to chat to some of you soon.
One Love,
N
Hey, nanook.
Welcome to spf. (This is the introduction forum.)
This introduction is important, imo, as there was another fellow in cyber-space some time back who was also nanook. But that guy went off the deep end, from what I've gathered. So I'm guessing you aren't one and the same.....?
As abone fide hermit, I share your views on group dynamics. However about the only time I consume the sacraments mentioned above is at certain musical events with 10,000 of my closest friends. hehe Go figure.....
Anyway, welcome to spf..
lw
Hi Nanook, welcome UK also here :)
I am actually getting into trance music as a recent thing but I know what you mean, I recently went to a festival that was really really good BUT I could not help but notice the amount of people using drugs that knew next to NOTHING about them. But these events are full of some goood people also and is where alot of the scene is at. Was quite disturbing, alas I digress from my intentions of a hearty welcome!!! WELCOME!!!
Boooshpig
QuoteBut that guy went off the deep end, from what I've gathered.
LOL! :lol: Thats definately one way to put it. I am sure he feels like he was maligned, though. Still, his legacy lives on after him.
You, uh, aren't him are you? :P Welcome either way, he was a genius in his own right and I had no beef with him myself.
Welcome! :)
oooo.....
Another Nanook!!!!!.... na doubt we are the same (ive been going by this name as long as ive been DJ'in)...... Yea...ive been off the deep end myself, but cant remember ever causing trouble on here (laughs)...Maybe it was another life :wink:
so....cheers for the hearty welcome guys :)
I'll be about a tad more from now on i rekon.
Peace,
N
ps- anyone here go on Celtic Psy Forum??
Some nice people....some shared interests....take a browse :)
LOL Cool...
The other nan came around these parts sharing some great cactus extraction teks back in the day. He also had his own nook in cyber-space. Word on the tubes is that he got pissed off one day and started throwing around satanic banishment incantations that sort of creeped out the good peeps of that community.
See you around the deep end. hehe
lw
You say amphetamine and LSD like it's a bad thing.........
Rock on!
LOL Yeah, JRL and I are from the old school where musicians were peeps who actually played musical instruments. hehe
lw
Quote from: "JRL"You say amphetamine and LSD like it's a bad thing.........
Rock on!
(laughs)....
Not a bad thing. They are strong 'rugs for sure. But cos they Man-Made....they have tendancy to spin people out and delude people.....(in my humble opinion....LOADS of people get deluded by LSD...start thinking theyve solved lifes or the cosmic mysteries...whereas all theyve actually found is a key to their own subconscious.....
I dont know about you but how many over-tripped conspiracy theorists or shaky phet heads have you met??...(i know a few)....heheehee
Quote from: "laughingwillow"LOL Yeah, JRL and I are from the old school where musicians were peeps who actually played musical instruments. hehe
lw
...shit yea.
I wouldnt know about being a real musician....
............what with being classically trained on the flute + guitar....(with basic training on Keys and drums.....)
...shieeet.....playing a guitar is LOADS harder than mixing on 4 decks while keeping a drum machine, keys, computer and sampler in time....
SHeeeesh.....
What was i thinking??
IVE WASTED ALLLLLL THIS TIME!!!!
(falls over laughing)
(PS-Im not sarcastic...honestly)... hehee ;)
LOL I could care less about the difficulty of an individual producing electronic "music."
The interraction of musicians in "real time" is what floats me psy boat......
lw
What willow said......
Coming from a jazz, funk, blues, roots background it's all about the interaction, how many levels can you hook up on?? I don't know, I keep finding new ones..........
Pig-pile on da new guy!!!!
Concerning drum machines vs real drums........ I've come to the conclusion that there is a major acoustical difference between the two methods of producing beats. Maybe its because real drums with skin heads move a certain volume of air when struck and rhythms produced by drum machines lack this phenomena. I guess what I'm saying is that, imo, under psychedelic duress, its just as important to feel some sounds as it is to hear them.
lw
But seriously man, we don't wanna chase you away, and us curmudgeons are in the minority here. Most of da bredren are down with all things tek.
Having said that, I for one prefer a heartbeat to a clock.
Quote from: "laughingwillow"Maybe its because real drums with skin heads move a certain volume of air when struck and rhythms produced by drum machines lack this phenomena. I guess what I'm saying is that, imo, under psychedelic duress, its just as important to feel some sounds as it is to hear them.
Of course, you're forgetting that no sound comes out the drum machine itself, it's sent to a big fat stacked speaker - which in itself is very much vibrating & moving the air, and can most definitely be felt!
Some electronic music sucks for sure, and the scene is lookin' pretty druggy & empty (where's it headed exactly?) to me at the moment... psy trance is boring, so is ecstacy & ketamine... but - I got knocked on my back by some unexpectedley heavy cactus medicine at a beautiful festy here recently, found myself curled on the floor with my lady riding fractal wheels of festival thoughts, a silent sinkhole for the sounds around... there was this guy called CHEJU (who you can hear on myspace if you want) manipulating sonics, playing pure frequencies & beautiful melodies from his machines - it was pretty organic, mellow, emotional electronica and it sounded very lovely in deed, the plant medicine agreed!
It's a different story when you're jamming for sure, but electronic music shouldn't be dismissed, it can be very soulful & moving, and also very spontaneous...
so there. :lol:
oh yeah, and where i was laid was a really amazing space - ID spiral - these peeps know how to create a good environment!
this is it in daytime:
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the sound was top notch, anywhere you stood (or sat, or lay) it could be felt & heard well without being too loud so you had to shout or clap your hands to your head... they had hammocks & geodesic tea tents, low tables & spongy carpets... raw food & good brews, also cakes & pizza's for the more munchy amungus... most everything in white with well used splashes of colour - at night the whole place would light up, and projections were dripping from every surface... and generally, the sounds were liquid heaven... a magical place...
when electronic music is done right, it is very very nice.
me stop now, i love all sortsa ting. :wink:
I got high just listening about it...sounds like a wonderful time...
Yeah man, it was lovely... best festival I've been to in years...
I know it was good because I got depressed afterwards and needed a week off work..!
I recall walking thru town and two young chicks with orange faces and silver handbags and tinted hair walked passed talking about big brother, you get so used to seeing the weirdness of the modern world as normal when you're stuck in it, but after the festy, I could hardly believe they were human! Aliens in lady make-up talking about TV shows... arghhhh!
it was www.sunrisecelebration.com (http://www.sunrisecelebration.com) by the way, highly recommended.
Sounds like a good time. US fests are not so sunny often.
Hey, I got nothing against any method of making music, it's not electronica I don't like it's crappy music of any kind. Problem with computers is anyone can create semi-good stuff, good enough to blow there own minds and maybe their Mom's. So they cease being hungry acolytes of whatever the art form of their choice is, thinking they are already there.
When I listen to music I don't think about how it was made, many ways to skin the catgut, but what I do look at is how it effects me. I think electronica artists need more complete music educations, with more understanding of harmony and form the music will only get better.
Just my opinion, but quite concidered. I know it is not a popular view around here.
You are certainly right in my book. Agree with all your points.
Some of the punk ethos there tho, as in 'anyone can do it'... In lotsa ways it's a good thing... but yes, it probably does make peeps a bit lazy.
(festivals not so sunny here often neither - some good magic worked at sunrise - forecast was 'pisspisspiss' and when we arrived on thursday it did just that, but later that afternoon came a big rainbow cross the site & friday & saturday were blazing! sunday was grey, but that seemed somehow fitting.)
Bring on the hungry acolytes!!!
:D
true that anyone "can" do it, but who will so committed?? Following your bliss ain't easy, and for me it has taken way long, all my life.
I meant the sun that blazes within, not the orb in the sky........
I've always wanted to be able to play with a drum machine, if for no other reason to get an understanding of funky time signatures. In other words, anything that is not standard 4/4 or 3/4. LOL!
Can you help a brother out??? :lol:
Yes siree, following your bliss is a good thing to spend your life doing, especially 'cos it ain't easy! :D
Not many festivals in the UK let the soul-light shine like sunrise, glastonbury has been 'appropriated' now, the sunrise peeps go the whole hog, good ethics & loadsa diversity, attracts a great crowd...
Hey jiku! you could register here: http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/ (http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/)
and download ReBirth RB-338...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReBirth_RB-338 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReBirth_RB-338)
I play with a drum machine all the time as a learning tool. I think I like playing with them better than listening to them.
And so it happened I caught up with a big chunk of my bliss up in Redding California last night, first playing for a couple of thousand Reddites, then sitting in the full moon in a hotel parking lot next to I-5.
mmmm......
I kinda just joined this board in the hope of meeting like minded people....
....i guess the wandering continues.....
Catch ya soon maybe guys.
N
Dude I swear we didn't mean to hijack your thread. Give us a chance.....
Quote from: "JRL"Dude I swear we didn't mean to hijack your thread. Give us a chance.....
I couldnt care less what you do with this thread.....
And i dont care for chances.....
No hard feelings....but youve shown your true colours....So now i know.....no scene...i'll just be going.
Take care..
N
LOL (In best Seinfeld Soup Nazi voice...) No scene for you!!
We all have different musical interests here. Spirit plants are what brought us together. By no scene, I'm assuming you really mean, "not YOUR scene," correct?
Speaking of true colors. hehe
lw
I think he just doesn't wanna make a big deal about leaving.
I think he just wanted some attention. If you are going to leave, leave, don't make a big to do about it and try to make people feel guilty or something...
Thanks, jiku. I was thinking the same.
lw
HEY guys.....
I popped back to see if much has moved on.......and now im being accused of attention seeking.
Harsh guys. Proper Harsh.
I came on here, respectful of the community you already have going here, and politelly introduced myself and what I do.
To be honest...Ive got no real issue.....but i tend to get defensive at comments like the one LW made.........
(''hehe''...to me.....doesnt cover up a jibe/dig. I can see now thats not how you meant it now.....but jokes like that are a sure way to scare away newbies..... ;) )....
Quote from: "laughingwillow"LOL Yeah, JRL and I are from the old school where musicians were peeps who actually played musical instruments. hehe
lw
and hey guys....if i was attention seeking...would i really have waited a year after signing on, for the right time to write my first post??
take it easy guys.....
i'll be about....twould be silly to dissapear from here as theres a lot to learn from others...but hey dont wail on the new guy!!!!
peace,
N
I totally tried to resist answering back to that......
But i couldnt.
Quote from: "jikuhchagi"and try to make people feel guilty or something...
Instead....i'll not name call...but i'll point out that where i come from...men take responsibility for their own emotions.
Dont lay your guilt on me. It would be more evolutionary to look inside and ask, why am i feeling guilty?? (ive just had to do the same and ask myself why i threw a strop because someone doesnt like drum machines...SILLY eh?.....My guilt came from knowing deep down i just made the same mistake i always make...<throwing my toys out the pram>.....wheres your guilt from??)
peace,
N
I for one am glad you'll be around, don't let these old guys rustle your feathers, they have noting better to do all day. And yes, I totally agree about the guilt thing. Im very surprised to see one of our own blame someone else for his own guilt.
Doh!
I was all ready to scream, "he hit me first!" when I went back and reread the thread in a fit of righteous indignation. And now I don't blame you for pushing back a little.
Sorry, man.
lw
Hey Nanook! Wow, I totally missed this thread. Welcome! I think JRL's comment on music, where he says good music is good music however it's made, is my thought too. In our day, electronica is the controversial musical art form. I bet electrified instruments were once upon a time. Or even recorded music itself back when.
I just think the gifted souls who choose to pursue their art obsessively will prove their worth whether a capella, acoustic, electric, electronic, some combination. I'm no great fan of country music or rap, but sometimes a song hits me and I nod, yah, sweetness! And I love rock music, but some of it sucks! Or, worse, is just mediocre, derivative, not worth even yelling about.
Good is good under whatever hood :twisted:
LOL! Oh, this could be the beginning of a wonderful friendship! :lol:
I'll make this as succinct as possible: I've no beef with you Nanook, but for the last 8 years I have seen people come and people go on several different message boards, and invariably the drama queens have to announce that they are leaving, that things have changed, that things aren't what they thought they were, blah, blah, blah. The 'like-minded folk' that I relate to just come and go as they please without the need to announce every departure.
I'm sorry if it was all to easy for me to see you in the same light, but it gets old after a while...
:roll:
Quote from: "jikuhchagi"I'm sorry if it was all to easy for me to see you in the same light, but it gets old after a while...
:roll:
no danger guys.....
Now ive said hi, i dont mind what you say. Im not adverse to a bit of banter
I know type can come off differently than intended so no worries....
see ya around guys :)