i wish i had listened to what my mama said
yeah i wish i'd listened to waht my mama said
then i wouldn't be here tryin' to sleep in this cold iron bed...
:roll:
(& gotta talk to the lawyer now to find out what's next, oy oy oy...)
What happened, mon? You get popped by the po-po? Sorry to hear that, if so.
lw
yeppers, tha's the ticket...
felony 5 for me (allegedly permitting drug abuse in my house)
felony 5 for daughter' BF (flushing the toilet)
felony 3 for daughter (a handful of roll & a digi-scale)
not very good at all, imho...
i read the biblical book of job whilst locked up overnight in the lake county (OH) pokey...
(& you think i've got it bad? that poor s.o.b. was fuxxored bigtime, yes?)
Take the plea, and hope for probation, if your lawyer suggests it...As noble as fighting the charges sounds, it just doesn't work very often for us common folk. Hope my humble advice helps. Anyway whats a felony 5 etc? Here they call them DCB and A, D being the least, A is the highest felony.
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Ah never mind, I get it, 5th degree
On the surface, your daughter's charge appears to be the only one with teeth. Especially if she's admitting the items in question were hers. The other charges should leave room for reasonable doubt. At least that's what I've learned from watching court tv. hehe
I hope it all works out OK, grnmy.
lw
somebody said:
man i've been doing this since the 70s & no problems;
you kids can't get thru a couple years of "the scene" without running afoul of the authoritarians...
ya gotta learn to fly under their radar, eh?
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jeez, if i just had a couple hundred thou on hand, i might make it thru this crap without going broke...
mebbe better talk to the banker as well as the lawyer...
(even 20 or 30 K might let me squeek by, i dunno...)
Sorry to hear you are a victim of persecution. Oh when will the madness end? Didn't you figure by the time people our age were in power the laws would change?
Man that sux badly, my thoughts to you all...damn it makes me mad. Please tell me more on the specifics of the charges as I'm in the U.K and don't quite understand the terms....
felony 5 for me (allegedly permitting drug abuse in my house)
felony 5 for daughter' BF (flushing the toilet)
felony 3 for daughter (a handful of roll & a digi-scale)
What is the possible min/max sentancing ?
Boooshpig
F5 is 6 mo --> 1 yr jail + $us 2,500
F3 is like 5 --> 10 yr + $us 25,000
or something like that, i dunno...
more $$$ than i've got...
"fuxxored" as they used to say...
None of my bidness, but did they manage to get an undercover rat into the house or something to do a deal?
maybe...
or phone-tap, or scanner-monitoring cell-phones, or laser-reflection listening devices, and/or a complaining neighbor, or wtf???
(and _bragging_ (& exaggerating!) on myspace.com is also being udes as evidence...)
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my buddy mike suggested to me that even the sub-G slackmeister BOB DOBBS knows that too much slack may not always be a good thing...
& i was never very good at nay-saying...
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an alleged chinese curse: may you live in interesting times...
yowza...
What happened on myspace?
Complaining neighbor has to be toward the top of the list at this point, imo.
lw
My heartfelt condolences to you bro..... That said,,, Would you mind elaborating a bit about that myspace thing? Specifically, at this early in the proceeding, how would whoever told you they will be using that against you know such a thing? Hell, not that the Man wouln't use any and everything to paint a sordid a pic as possible.... Damn I hate it when folks get jammed.. I really really hate it when its good folk such as yourself bro..... In Spiritual Solidarity------------- sal
Bummer dude. Hope you get a good lawyer. Maybe they didn't get a proper warrant or something...
well, the warrent was issued 4 may & they had 3 days to serve it, but didn't kick in the door until 8 may...
the head cop did say that this was "the most interesting house" they had ever busted --- i guess that is a compliment of sorts, heh...
should be a very ummm educational summer for all concerned...
Good luck bro. Hope everything works out ok for ya's!!!
Peace
ObOdAoUr
mebbe so--->
90 days probation
random pee-inna-bottle
less than $400 fines/court costs
& whatever the psychologist decides is needed for "treatment" program
(i told her dr tim said "just say no, thank you")
now i can go back to worrying about 2 my kids & dotter's BF...
thanx to all for well-wishes, prayers, magicks, & good-vibes
love///gnrmi
My advice:
1.) NEVER ADMIT GUILT. Every time a case goes forward, a stupid amount of money is wasted. If you spend less that 10% of the time your plea would be, by delaying the case, then "time served" is often offered to avert a court case.
2.) EVERY PERSON IN YOUR HOUSE should have a note on their door (unless they own it) SIGNED by them, which means (A) that the owner is not responsible for that room, and (B) that if a warrent for that home is issued, then it might not be valid for the leased rooms.
3.) NEVER type "novelty ID" into google !!
4.) Awesome lawyers win by not letting it go to court; find one that will change venues and delay until the case is "lost."
5.) Find out who the prosecuter is. Find out where he went to school, when he did, and call the frat he was in (whatever0. Ask then to refer a lawyer from the same frat/school/time, and PAY him.
6.) NARC!!! If it was cell phones then an additional charge of "use of communication equipment in drug crime" would be a likely charge.
I would love to give more advice, but this is too public to ask questions.
PS Chlorox Bleach not flushing or dumping ;(
they pretty much done fukn wif me...
son is now serving 150 days in county minimum security w/work release (4 days/week)...
daughter goes away feb 8 for 2 years (mandatory minimum) in state reformatory for women...
i'm saving up a major crying jag, i figure maybe 2nd week of february...
& so it goes...
walk on...
Hang tough brother... So terribly sorry to hear about that heavy handed approach they used on the kids.... let us know if they's appreciate any correspondence or whatever..... Fascist thugs seem to have gone way overboard - for the throat imho--------- senorsal
just saw this thread. i'm flabbergasted at a 2 yr reformatory stint. guess i just don't know how things are.
pitiful, pitiful bureacracy.
any chance for early release?
no early release...mandatory minimum...sellin XTC...bummah indeed...
fukn jackbooted thugs w/warrents...
free all drug prisoners now dammit...
(i love both my kidz even tho they sometimes drive me nutz...)
Quote from: "JRL"Didn't you figure by the time people our age were in power the laws would change?
Nothing ever changes...having a couple rolls doesn't a criminal make, 2 years locked up...does a criminal make.
wow, I just saw this thread...
gnrm23, you've been a member since... well since almost day one here. If you need anything at all, or if the kids need anything at all, I'd be happy to try and rally the family for support.
Man I can't imagine going through that... hang tough though, 2 years is a ridiculous amount of time for that non-crime but it isn't forever.
Maybe you can shoot me a pm and I could write a letter to maybe take away some of the boredom of jail. Wish I could do more....
-kemp
well, when i find out the protocol for prison-stuff (her #, addy, what's permitted to be mailed (books, $, toiletries, elecronics, musical instruments, etc) & of course visitation... i'll ask if she wants letters & let ya know...
Let her know that there are us folks out here that have her in our thoughts and 'have her back' at least in the philosophical sense... Let us know if there's anything we can do to ease the burden....
agreed. If e-mail's are allowed, or foreign snali-mails, just let us know.
grrrr mindless thugs :(
i'm saving up a rilly big crying jag for this weekend, i think...
gathering info per prison regs in re mail & packages & visits etc...
if she wants mail, i will supply info to well-wishers when i have her prisoner # ( :( ) at marysville (oh) state reformatory for women...
shitfuk&g'dammitall...
"dear guvna strickland, you don't know me but..."
and so it goes...
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om the plus side, they were trying to send my son away for 2 full years for violating the judge's ban against smoking dope while on work release during a 5 month stay at lake co min.sec. facility; at the hearing truth & justice shared a space --- his piss test numbers weren't dropping fast enough to please the court (tho he hadn't puffed since november!!); a graph showing plasma THC levels vs. urine levels, & a very informative letter faxed to the court from a wonderful m.d. friend convinced the court that his metabolism was just taking quite a while to clear out the stored thc from his adipose tissues... so they closed the hearing & said they'd let him out in march instead of june...
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dammit, what we put into our bodies (or share with our friends) shouldn't be any of their fukn bizness... ummm, imho...
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play safely & discretely out there my friends, big brother is indeed watching...
just an update:
son is out; enjoys sleeping in his own bed, staying up late watching TV, sleeping until he's ready to get up... the ex-wife took him (& me, okay) out for a steak dinner monday night... it is sooo good to have him back...
as for mein dotter --- well, she has been in county lockup the past couple/few weeks, but i think today she is being transfered to marysville (OH state reformatory for women; just west of columbus)... time to file applications for visiting, find out about putting $100 in her commissary account, & what sort of packages from the approved supplier can be sent there asap, etc... & hope for the best, i suppose...
(oh, & i did have me a major crying jag/nervous breakdown the night she was locked up in county --- loud enough to scare her kitty into hiding under the table... then a bit later some friends stopped by to help me drink just enough to crawl up to bed & wake up with a small hangover...)
when i have her prisoner # (within 2 weeks i think) i'm sure she would welcome letters from some kind folks...
blessed be
/gnrmi
Remember, things always work out for the best in the long run. You just have to hang in there for the long run to play out.
well, i got her prisoner # ...
have sent a $$$ order & some embossed envelolpes to get her started...
if anybody wants to send her a letter at ohio state reformatory for women in marysville Oh, PM me & i will give ya the needed info...
muddle thru, i guess...
salaam///gnrmi