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Plant Matters => The Rain Forest => Topic started by: flower on October 10, 2006, 12:47:49 PM

Title: Is this kava?
Post by: flower on October 10, 2006, 12:47:49 PM
I got this cutting from a botanical garden where it was said to be piper methysticum. The thing is that the leafs doesn't look at all as the ones I've seen on pictures, could it just be a different strain than the usual, or is it something else?
(//http://www.spiritplants.org/phpbb/gallery/albums/userpics/10330/72.1153858049.jpg)

Thanks :)
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Post by: jokergrin on October 10, 2006, 08:04:29 PM
they're not as round and heart-shaped as kava usually is...your leaves are more enlongated....

I'm very and most absolutely not sure...

heh.
Title: kava
Post by: BotanyGuru on October 13, 2006, 02:36:11 PM
nope thats not kava at all.

i spent a few months in fiji drinking kava with the natives, and had the experience of growing and tending to the plants, and that looks nothing like it.

please view my thread here (//http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Garden&Number=6076823).
it has quite a few pics of the plant itself, and the process of brewing.
Title: Re: kava
Post by: flower on October 14, 2006, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: "BotanyGuru"nope thats not kava at all.

i spent a few months in fiji drinking kava with the natives, and had the experience of growing and tending to the plants, and that looks nothing like it.

please view my thread here (//http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Garden&Number=6076823).
it has quite a few pics of the plant itself, and the process of brewing.

Ok, thanks BotanyGuru for the link!

If someone have real kava cuttings to trade or sell please send me a PM :)
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Post by: flower on October 15, 2006, 10:15:20 AM
I think the plant is a piper at least since it looks like one. The leafs doesn't smell anything when i rub them, how does kava smell? My piper betle on the other hand smells like hotdogs, are that right?
Here are a few better pictures of the plant, any id help would be nice.
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(//http://www.spiritplants.org/phpbb/gallery/albums/userpics/10330/PA153985.JPG)
(//http://www.spiritplants.org/phpbb/gallery/albums/userpics/10330/PA153986.JPG)
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Post by: Stonehenge on October 15, 2006, 04:16:30 PM
It doesn't look like the kava plants I use to have. There are a lot of related species.
Title: hnmmm
Post by: BotanyGuru on October 19, 2006, 04:16:26 AM
it could be a possibility that you were sold Macropiper Excelsum instead, which is a different kind of kava, and the leafs of that can range in shape.

Let it grow out a little more, but i agree it resembles a piper family plant, due to the appearance of its stems.
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Post by: Thinair on February 02, 2007, 03:29:12 PM
I know absolutely nawt me, but I saw a picture of a young Toé/Brugmansia plant recently and it looked just like that  first one :?

Best wishes,

Marion.
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Post by: flower on March 10, 2007, 01:19:26 PM
Thanks for the help, the mystery is solved. I was told via PM that this is a longpepper, and im sure that is correct.  
Still looking for a kava cutting :wink: