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Title: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: lollipop guild on September 10, 2006, 02:26:05 PM
On the surface, this mad honey bidness appears dangerous. But the mention of "intoxication" and "psychoactive" has me intrigued....................

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health ... 433411.ece (http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article1433411.ece)

Scientists warn of 'mad honey disease'
By Roger Dobson
Published: 10 September 2006
Mad honey disease is among the rarest afflictions in the world, but it appears to be on the increase.

Only 58 cases have been reported worldwide, but eight people were treated in 2005 alone.

The trend towards eating more natural products may be driving a rise in cases of the disease, whose symptoms can include convulsions, low blood pressure, fainting and temporary heart problems, according to a new report.

"Mad honey disease has the potential to cause death if untreated," say the researchers. "Because of the increasing preference for natural products, intoxication induced by consumption of honey will increase in the future."

Just a spoonful of the wrong honey can cause problems, according to researchers, who report their findings this week in the American Journal of Emergency Medicine.

Mad honey poisoning is most prevalent in honey from the Black Sea region of Turkey. Compounds called grayanotoxins, found in the nectar of rhododendrons, mountain laurels and azaleas, are thought to be responsible for the disease. Though harmless to bees, they are psychoactive and poisonous to humans. Affected honey is said to have a very bitter taste.

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Post by: JRL on September 10, 2006, 02:57:13 PM
I remember reading someone saying that toxins are the new frontier of psychoactive exploration.  Spider bites always make me feel a little sideways out of normal space.

Anyone else experience that?
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Post by: RifeHeretic on September 10, 2006, 11:01:30 PM
There's that thing with the scorpian sting too. Heh, not really my thing. I have heard of intoxicating honey, though
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Post by: jokergrin on September 21, 2006, 09:58:41 PM
hmm...I do honey, water and yeast...let it sit for a month or two...and that's pretty intoxicating.  ;)
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: panzuman on July 29, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
first off lol at jokergrin cause mead is delishious and second ive gotten simmilar effects from certain spiders orb spiders tend to do this i also got a warning bit from a brown recluse (one of the few spiders that can control weather or not their bite contains toxins) that was a very interesting time to say the least but as for the mad honey i think it would be interesting if you had a grove of wormwood with a beehive in the middle of it or perhaps wild dagga
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: jokergrin on July 29, 2010, 03:44:27 PM
Doing reports on Oleander and the chemicals therein, I have found that the oleandrin can poison bee honey...

And, yes, I love mead!  The only bad part is having to wait 6 months for it to age!! :o/
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: Bram_ on July 29, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
I know that when I put psilocybe cubensis mushrooms in honey to potenate them, I never had a bad trip but I had a way better time on fresh cubensis than soaked in honey.  I guess I have a bad time with bee venom...

Jamison Lee Schuetz
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: SlickNick on August 27, 2010, 04:30:50 PM
What kind of dummy buys honey from turkey!?
If one's motivation is to eat more naturely,
why not eat local honey. Local honey would be
far more medicinal...


           Peace,   ~N~
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: Amomynous on August 27, 2010, 05:03:37 PM
Quote from: "SlickNick"What kind of dummy buys honey from turkey!?

Turks?

QuoteIf one's motivation is to eat more naturely, why not eat local honey. Local honey would be far more medicinal...

That's what those young Turks thought, too!
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: celestial on December 11, 2010, 01:05:58 AM
That sounds nasty! Brings a new meaning to a "BUZZ"
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: meme on January 21, 2011, 10:10:15 PM
I have had some great Turkish honeys, but the best honey i have had was Black Seed honey from Lebanon.

It did make me crazy, though, come to think about it.
Title: Re: Mad Honey, anyone?
Post by: laughingwillow on January 28, 2011, 12:47:06 PM
I don't think I've had the pleasure of sampling  honey from the middle east. The best honey I remember was a sage honey from a Monterey County bee keeper. Orange blossom is also nice.

I hope to keep bees when/if we get settled in NorCal.

lw