a kilo of commercial leaft aught to do nicely. Anybody have the hookup?
A~
Told you ya'd like it!
If it proves too costly I wouldn't mind splittin' the bill with ya. ;)
Yeah, I really like kratom..... at least the commercial leaf..... it's almost sickly sweet fealing.... very much opiate like. I've tried the resins and the enhanced extracts and I don't think they hold their potency near as well. What I don't understand is why it's all just so damn expensive. I just went ahead and ordered a half kg from a reliable vendor for $155. If you'd like to go halfsies with me Varja, give me a pm.
Check your PM's if you're interested in wholesale.
BTW, kratom is somewhat addictive, so if you have a large quantity, be a little careful. Using it at most every two or three days seems to be a good protocol for avoiding addiction or tolerance.
Edit: of course, cost is relative. 1/2 kg = 500 grams, which is easily 50 doses, maybe 100 depending upon your sensitivity. So at $155.0, that's like $1.50 - $3.00 a dose, which isn't really that expensive.
it actually worked out to $182 w/online transfer to indonesia, but it's still a good price in comparison to other sources. Yeah, Danny over at p-herbs has always had good products as far as I'm concerned.
I as well get the impression that kratom can be addictive. but i've personally never felt any specific cravings for more after going on a kratom binge. though it certainly appears to work on the same receptor sites that opiates do........ so yeah, I'll be sure to be carefull.
.... at the price, who could afford the addiction anyways.
Quote from: "Avery L. Breath"... at the price, who could afford the addiction anyways.
About the same price as many people's pack a day tobacco habit, and a lot of people seem to afford that!
Yo, what method/dose might give one an opiate-like experience?
-TM
Quote from: "TroutMask"Yo, what method/dose might give one an opiate-like experience?
-TM
15-25 grams ......, depending on sensativity, steaped in hot water & filtered (or not) and gulp it down. Or I personally preffer to just run it through an espresso maker. Have tried several addatives to make it taste better to no success. last batch of commercial leaf I got, I'd usually go around 18grams.
.... just a note to any would be kratom samplers, stay away from the tobacco products while experimenting, or it'll make you hurl.
Quote from: "TroutMask"Yo, what method/dose might give one an opiate-like experience?
-TM
WARNING: Your millage may vary! What I find to be a good, stiff dose makes my wife wish I had never talked her into one of my strange herbs :)
What I find to work well is about 10 grams of finely powdered leaf, mixed with six to eight ounces of juice (grapefruit or orange). Shaken, not stirred.
Eating the leaf powder is equivalent to 100% extraction efficiency, and if you can slug it down fast enough, you barely taste it. Quickly rinse your mouth to get any powder out.
If you try this, start with 5 grams or so, in case you're sensitive.
Edit: Also, it is important to take it on an empty stomach (three to four hours since eating). Perhaps not as important as with kava (which is almost inactive unless you have an empty stomach), but kratom is much more effective that way.
Avery: give the above a try with 10 grams and see if it works for you. Economics and all...
Quote from: "Avery L. Breath".... just a note to any would be kratom samplers, stay away from the tobacco products while experimenting, or it'll make you hurl.
This is true. Kratom and tobacco synergize with each other strongly! Just a few weeks ago I smoked a cigarette while on kratom, and yep, I hurled. Now, I'm good at hurling (working with ayahuasca can be a good way to learn to vomit correctly -- I mean that in all seriousness; many people don't know how to vomit), and I felt fine right afterwards, but in general most people like to avoid such experiences.
On a relatively low dose of kratom I can enjoy the rush of a cigarette, but on higher doses... beware!
That sounds like a good recipe Amom, I'll give'r a try.......
I still have my home grown kratom available. $5 for 14gm including postage within USA. Will trade but no trades or sales outside the states. It's just too much hassle going through customs. My leaf was grown without any pesticides or harmful chemicals. Can you be sure the stuff grown in other countries is clean as well?
I asked my caretaker and she says I'm not allowed to go halfsies with my friend. Then she made me mow the lawn and fix the dog run.
Oh, and I'm not allowed to play with you anymore, Ave. She says you're a bad influence! :P
Ha!...... I get that all the time.
Quote from: "Vpirate"I asked my caretaker and she says I'm not allowed to go halfsies with my friend. Then she made me mow the lawn and fix the dog run.
You messed up
that negotiation! You should have said you would fix the dog run and mow the lawn
if you could play! You haven't been a kid for a while, have you? :)
D'oh! Yeah, it's been awhile. :oops:
How about the "whatever they're going to tell ya, ma, it ain't true! I didn't do it!"
:lol:
Quote from: "Amomynous"What I find to work well is about 10 grams of finely powdered leaf, mixed with six to eight ounces of juice (grapefruit or orange). Shaken, not stirred....
Thanks for the tip Amom, that wasn't bad at all! Didn't even taste it really..... just a little texture. Blended about 10 grams up in a a couple of shots of berry smoothy and it worked just fine.
Quote from: "Avery L. Breath"Thanks for the tip Amom, that wasn't bad at all! Didn't even taste it really..... just a little texture. Blended about 10 grams up in a a couple of shots of berry smoothy and it worked just fine.
Now, if your local coffeeshop starts offering kratom smoothies, I bet they'd have a hit on their hands!