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Plant Matters => The Salvia Plane => Topic started by: rsc on August 20, 2006, 02:45:05 PM

Title: Psychic experience
Post by: rsc on August 20, 2006, 02:45:05 PM
Has anyone out there had any clearly psychic experiences while on or after taking Salvia
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Post by: TooStonedToType on August 20, 2006, 08:05:57 PM
I knew someone would be asking that!
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Post by: TroutMask on August 21, 2006, 10:39:31 AM
Dang, I was sure no one would be asking that. Time for a new crystal ball.

-TM
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Post by: lollipop guild on August 21, 2006, 12:03:56 PM
One night, Sally whispered in my ear that real personal power is the ability to view oneself from an objective perspective.

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Title: Objectivity
Post by: rsc on August 21, 2006, 04:41:53 PM
"By definition we will have to demonstrate objective to distinguish it from subjective and visa versa. In the end we must either opt for one or the other but in so doing you have eliminated both."

Pipen
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Post by: lollipop guild on August 21, 2006, 05:15:19 PM
Entheogens help an individual to transcend his/her egocentric viewpoint, imo, allowing a third reference point to be developed in conjunction with the subjective/objective. While developing this new reference point is nothing more than a tool for getting to know oneself, this act, in turn, facilitates a deeper understanding of the human condition in general.

bong'n
Title: Subject/object
Post by: rsc on August 21, 2006, 05:23:09 PM
Interesting perspective. I think at this point I agree but I will think on it. As far as psychic experiences I write about this because of something I saw on the tube regarding the sense of another being around one/ ie aliens etc being induced by electronically stimulating an area of the brain. SD seems to induce a sense of other being with me so far and it is sort of like my experience with schizophrenia. Might be a good drug to study for helping schizo's like myself.
Title: yes
Post by: thewaking_life on August 31, 2006, 03:18:31 PM
its the input I've been yearning for someone to properly put.  A third reference point.  It is very real when salvia uses your mind, but scary when your mind doesnt want to leave that third point.
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Post by: lollipop guild on September 02, 2006, 12:20:29 PM
Speaking of crystal balls, here's my horoscope from today's newspaper.....

If you can see your life from a birds-eye view, you can easily make adjustments that will help you gracefully get where you're going. Friends are your best resource for attaining such a perspective.

Btw, I would prolly change the last line to, "friends and allies." hehe

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Post by: TroutMask on September 02, 2006, 12:29:10 PM
Hm, my horoscope says:

You will sit in the basement writing code. Don't forget to feed the cats.
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Post by: JRL on September 02, 2006, 01:38:14 PM
Mine says: Don't shower with your socks on and stay out of show business.
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Post by: lollipop guild on September 02, 2006, 04:49:26 PM
Sheesh, I apparently should have read the fine print on my fortune cookie last thursday. It said, "You will shit your pants in the name of research."

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Title: PantMongrel
Post by: thewaking_life on September 08, 2006, 03:40:34 AM
Haha.  maybe you could look into pullups then no?
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Post by: TroutMask on September 08, 2006, 11:05:50 AM
Argh. Same horoscope today, except at the end it says: Nice kittens!
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Post by: lollipop guild on September 09, 2006, 08:09:13 AM
thewaking_life: Depends.....

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Title: Re: yes
Post by: newgrower on September 11, 2006, 10:29:41 AM
Quote from: "thewaking_life"its the input I've been yearning for someone to properly put.  A third reference point.  It is very real when salvia uses your mind, but scary when your mind doesnt want to leave that third point.

i've actually noticed more that the personality that i know as myself (the regular me) can get kinda resistant (i think the entire human condition is based on resistance and concious or subconcous desire for confrontation) by the third perspective thinking.  Like i'll be thinking about things in said 3rd perspective, quickly and easily admitting the best answers to the issues in mind, but i recognize that its happening and that it isn't the normal me.  I'm learning to be more patient and listen to what it has to say more than i used to, but i don't think i will ever find solace in listening to myself think these 3rd person thoughts to the point where i would want to stay in it.  It (the 3rd person perspective) may not be my best friend, but it is a teacher, and a good one at that.