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Plant Matters => The Forest Floor => Topic started by: Hedon on July 06, 2006, 08:17:07 AM

Title: Mushroom substrates
Post by: Hedon on July 06, 2006, 08:17:07 AM
Does wheat work as well as rye grain for mushroom substrate? Are there any other good alternatives to rye?

Hedon
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Post by: TroutMask on July 06, 2006, 11:49:22 AM
Wild bird seed or plain millet.

-TM
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Post by: boomer2 on July 06, 2006, 04:11:30 PM
I use the ryeberry seed.

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Post by: Hedon on July 07, 2006, 07:48:02 AM
The thing is I can't seem to find any of these fancy substrates around town. One would think rye grain would be easy to come by but I didn't even find any at the co-op. They did have whole wheat grain and millet. I either try some  alternative substrate or pay 15 dollars in shipping costs.

Paul Stamens said that wheat works as well as rye. I would think that the ratio of water to grain and all of the other parameters would remain the same. Does anyone know?

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Post by: TroutMask on July 07, 2006, 12:02:48 PM
Are you experienced, looking for a more satisfying substrate? If not:

1. Go to grocery store.
2. Buy bag of wild bird seed, as close to plain millet as you can find.
3. Soak overnight, allowing "floaters" to come to the top, scooping them off.
4. Drain in a collander for 1 hour.
5. Shake and bake. Well, scoop and pressurize, whatever the case may be.

-TM
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Post by: Merkaba on July 07, 2006, 01:25:06 PM
What about just bying a 'myco-bag'?  Oh HOrse dung?  Nothing good firefang for P Cyan, or cubes for that matter...?

Has anyone tried a myco-bag?
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Post by: Cyano on July 08, 2006, 08:21:34 AM
The shop where I used to buy rye closed and because I am too lazy to look for another one I just use Popcorn from the supermarket. Any grain will work as a substrate.
A picture from my latest grow. The substrate is popcorn and wheatstraw.
http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000643kk.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000643kk.jpg)
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Post by: TroutMask on July 08, 2006, 02:13:05 PM
Oh yeah, forgot about popcorn. Haven't tried it, but I've heard of good results.

-TM
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Post by: TroutMask on July 12, 2006, 02:30:03 PM
What kind of bad luck? Contamination? Low yield? My experience is WBS cased in 50/50+, and I was blown away especially compared to previous cake experiments.

-TM