Schello, i got my first salvia plant yesterday. I ordered only one but the shop posted two (yes two!) and a banana flavoured lolly which wasn't actually very nice but still i'm not complainin'
I got the two plants set up in a humidity type thinga but their looking pretty droopy but i'm hopeful that they should perk up in a day or two.
Not a very good picture i'm afraid but still you get the idea
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~Peace~
Congratulations! Tip: Remove the humidity type thingies.
-TM
HOLY CRAP!
I took off the humidity bottles about four hours ag and i just went to check on them and they were shrivelled up and looked as if death was near!
I understand your reasons for suggesting that i take the bottles off but i guess i'll have to wean them off.
I took off the dead leaves because i heard that helps not sure though and i've put the bottles back on though ive taken the tops off so its not too humid.
Its stupid of me really to have put them in the bottles but i thought i was doing them a favour
Oh well i just hope they make it
Travel stress.....Just make sure you change the air in your humidity chamber every day , as it gets stale, and other fungal issues will start. Just let plant rest in a coolish semi-shady place, don't water until soil is dry, if plant is wilting keep using your tent....perhaps take it off at night. good luck
How're the plants doing????? Hope all is well--------- sal
Is brown-ness on the stem a sign that they arn't gonna survive?
They don't look great but i'm still kinda hopeful, i think taking the bottles off was a lot of shock to them i just hope they recover
browness by itself is not a problem unless accompanied by slime and rot. I thinkyour plants will recover, just don't water them for awhile
yes dont water for AWHILE remember salvia likes well drained soil just a tip (as i was too eager and drowned my plants (2 plants) ) and take the plants out of the plastic container and put them in one of those brownish pots you get at wally world as the ceramic pots let air get through to the soil it helps todry out the soil and alos when transplanting put a thin layer of pebbles down and the very botton perhaps 1 - 2 inches or so of pebbles and make sure they cannot fall out of the hole at the bottom of the pot using the pebbles helps the soil drain quick good luck!
update us with pictures every now and then to see there response to all the tips
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and dont forget about root rot very easy to think your under watering, but accually over watering let the soil COMPLETELY DRY out before watering soon the soild does look over watered in that picter and even if you havent watered it yet it will still have plenty of water for a week more atleast remember there babies and all babies (plant or not) dont drink as much as fully grown adults and also once the plants have gotten healthy again and changed to the climate check the main stalk of the plant as i had a plant sent to me that had an intire baby brach that was covered by the soil and couldnt grow so check to see if there are extra branches that can grow as i had atleast one extra branch on each of my plants... i wish they had survived... again good luck and 1 last thing search the forum for salvia tips i made a topic with good tips submitted!
also NO direct sunlight! Seriously, as much indirect as you can spare, but no direct. Wait at least 2 weeks before replanting them.
Having taken much heed to all your tips i am confident that they will make groovy recovery.
:D
I've kept them out of direct sunlight in a shady spot on top of my wardrobe which is by a window and havn't watered them in a couple of days.
I did have the sense to put pebbles down at the bottom of the pots first so no worries there and i mixed some perlite into the soil aswell to give better aeration and such.
Also i noticed this morning that fine hairs were growing on the ends and around the top half of the stem, could this be new growth?
No pics at the moment though as i can't find any batteries for the camera but nevermind..
~peace
If you can grow them outside for the summer, they will do much better. Bright early morning and afternoon sun, wind and weather do wonders for them, keeps away indoor bug problems, which are usually worse than outdoor bug issues. Indoors, flouro lights can be used with with or without reflective side panels to get adequate growth.
I have a 60W red light-bulb, i heard somewhere that red lght makes plants grow well, yeah i have to wean the plants off the bottle humidifie first, i opened the window which they sit by in the shade and let a little air in.
i noticed some leafiness around the base of the stem which i'm quite pleased with, i read in another topic about some ones sttem dying back to the last branch and then just growing from there which is maybe what i'll end up with.
~Peace
Word up
My plant's stem is going brown and then going kinda dry and then black, does this mean the whole plant will eventually shrivel up and die?! or will it grow new leaves if i cut the dead top off?
Out of my two plants i've taken off one of the bottles to see how it fairs but i'm still cautious to give the other rest.
~Peace
Its all about the roots and nodes, the plant can only sprout new leaves from nodes or from below the ground.
don't foret to change the air in the humidity chamber 1x /day, as they need fresh air to respire.
I don't think my plants (well i say plant its more just a stem) but yeah will grow new shoots from its roots then?
post more pix
Hey, i've taken this picture with a really bad webcam but you get the general idea.
The plant is about two inches high now, but will it die down to the node near the base of the stem and then grow from there.
i hope so.
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i'll have more pics soon
~peace
Its about 50/50 right now, until you fix the unknown factors that caused it original problems. Because it has no leaves, you must not overwater it, soil can be damp or dry, but wet soil will kill it. that large pot may never dry out enough, so you might go to a smaller drier mix and pot. If it does come back, it will take months of attention (and not overwatering it) before it gets healthy again. Its possible, so keep on trying.
well it was the change in humidity when i took the bottles off for the first time that did the initial damage.
:( I'll keep on looking after them but its not getting better quickly thats for sure, they'll probably just die slowly
No worries though ~ Peace
will removing the dead part of the stem before the node help recover the plant itself?
Unknown factors? Lets try to track them down. I would cut the dead part off, but I really don't know.
The leaves just fell off? Also, did u repot the plants? I lost my first plant to root rot+sunburn.
what happened is this
1. i potted the plants in a perlite/soil mix with drainage pebbles
2. i had them under a humidity bottle because twas suggested that to begin with the plants grow with higher humidity
3. On the second post of this topic the guy suggested i remove said bottles
4. A few hours later the plants are severly droopy and lifeless, the curled leaves come away at the touch of my fingers...
Thats the tale of this sorry situation
So did u repot them right away? And did they come in humidity chambers? From the first pic I would say that the bottles filtered the light for the plants.
I found this:
QuoteBranches Dying: If a plant appears to be dying from the tips of a branch, shedding leaves, with the branch turning brown and eventually dying off, this is not necessarily as serious as it first may seem. It could do this at the summer's end, or just anytime. A good example would be where the growth of leaf on other branches nearer the light source had the effect of blocking out light to lower / further back branches and leaves. In a case such as this, the plant may decide that the game isn't worth the candle and effectively close down operations and redirect it's resource to producing shoots and leaves elsewhere.
Having said that, if this doesn't ring true in your case, if more branches keep dying and your plant does not appear to be making any progress (i.e. when you would expect it to be growing), then it could be that the plant is otherwise unhappy. It may need re-potting. It may be too dry. Check the rest of the plant care advice to see if its over all circumstances could be improved.
I kept them in the same pots for a while then yesterday changed the smaller of the too but with a more noticeable node bud thinga in a smaller clay pot with dryer soil.
I've cut the dead part of the stems off now and both show no more signs of going borwn and look as if they may start growing once they've dealt with the shock of the repotting.
So i'm actually quite optimistic now, but this will obviously take some careful looking after for a while.
The main thing is i'm just happy they didn't die, cos that'd be well crap
~no worries
i think it was mostly the shock of travel (i had the exact same thing happen to my sally plants except they didnt make it next time if you buy more make sure you let them climatize to your region before taking outside i think thats the big problem oh well though next time will be better hopefully but tim eto take pix of my MG plant!
Just have patience, they can sprout from beneith the soil, but they need to dry out in order to do that, and then get sporadic watering when they are bone dry. I had forgotten about these stems, otherwise I probably would have watered them and killed em. It takes at least a few weeks for a plant to do this, at least in my experience. And then weeks of slow growing, but any plant, no matter how small it seems, has potential to grow into a giant.
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