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Plant Matters => The Salvia Plane => Topic started by: Mysticdragon on June 12, 2006, 04:00:50 PM

Title: Need advice
Post by: Mysticdragon on June 12, 2006, 04:00:50 PM
I recently started using SD, and I've found it to offer some good effects, but I have been hesitant to go too deep with it. I find that I only take 1-2 hits and once I hit level 1 I get nervous and am afraid to go further. Can anyone offer some perspective or advice to allow me to travel deeper into the levels of conciousness with SD?

I find the nervousness is similar to paranoia which is sometimes experienced with first time cannibus users. Fear of getting caught, fear of losing control, fear of the unknown, etc... I get tense and find it hard to initially enjoy my experience. I have gotten over some of this paranoia, but I still find it difficult to go farther than level 1. :oops:

Any input would be much appreciated.

EDIT: Just a bit of background. I was a cannibus user for about 7-8 years and had no problems, but I quit that about 5 years ago. My tollerance for that has gone downhill and I don't feel comfortable using that anymore, I tried a couple of times recently and was not really impressed by the results. I chose SD cause the wife didn't like me using cannibus cause it was illegal, and I read about the mind altering effects SD offers.
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Post by: Satori on June 12, 2006, 04:44:44 PM
Level 1?
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Post by: Mysticdragon on June 12, 2006, 04:54:11 PM
The levels of experience as found on Sagewisdom.com and other various sites explaining the effect of Salvia.

//http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html

Its rated from 1 thru 6, 1 being the most mild and 6 basically being a blackout. I have only experienced the most mild effects.
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Post by: Satori on June 12, 2006, 05:02:57 PM
Have you tried other drugs than weed? I mean psychedelic drugs.. not downers or uppers.

I think you shall just take it easy in any circumstances. No need to force yourself to go "deeper". Ask yourself why you want to smoke it, what you want out if it, from what you know of it, and go slow. Take time after the trips to work through the experiences... Thats about the advice i can give now.. Just take it easy hehe :)
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Post by: Mysticdragon on June 12, 2006, 07:02:22 PM
No I haven't ever tried any other psychadelic drugs. But I have been meditating on and off over the past few years. I was looking for 2 things, something to take the place of weed as a stress reliever, as well as something to enhance my meditative state.

Thanks for your input, I'll continue to take it slow and try to ease my way into it.
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Post by: Amomynous on June 12, 2006, 09:54:13 PM
Salvia (especially at lower levels) may work to enhance your meditative states, but it is probably ill-suited as a de-stressor.
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Post by: OOzOO on June 27, 2006, 02:20:50 PM
Actually, there is evidence to suggest that SD has mood-elevating properties.  Not necessarily stress-reducing, but more anti-depressive, anti-anxiety, and seems to sharpen the mind, although I haven't had enough experience to see these effects first-hand...yet.
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Post by: Merkaba on June 27, 2006, 02:35:38 PM
Also, if 1-2 hits gets you level 1, but your afraid to go deeper, but want to experience deeper levels... Your answer is self explanitory.  You can't O.D. on it, so just don't freak.  Set and setting man.  Calm down, but to get where you want to go, you need to do more in a sititng.  Screw smoking it.  Chew leaves.  The buzz lasts longer, and you can have more time to explore Sally-space.