Hey, kids.
I just want to drop by and apologize for any hurt feelings I may have caused in the last couple of days. There is no excuse. I'm sorry.
That said, I would also like to encourage this community to continue growing in any direction you choose. In retrospect, it maybe would have been better for me to go quietly into the night and to let things develop around here, natural-like. Instead, new growth was hastily snipped to accomodate my stgrong feelings on the subject at hand. I would have respected you folks more for holding your ground than caving in, to be honest. It would have at least exposed a passion.
nitro: I'd like to apologize specifically to you if I was wrong in assuming you had set up the mj forum knowing it would drive me away. I get the impression I may have been wrong after reading a recent post of yours, bro.
As far as the age requirement bru-ha-ha..... I was aware of the registration agreement from the start and was trying to be cool with it. Honestly. And that was pretty easy until the trade forum went up. And the reefer shack. So I was just bringing it to managements attention. I realize its no big deal to change that. But how many mambers have already registered under the old age requirement of 13?
Anyway, I encourage you peeps to follow your dreams. Make this place happen as you see fit. I'm sure we'll cross paths once again.
lw
Wow LW, I never knew I even gave the slighest bit of reason for you to suspect that. Especially since i didn't setup the mj forum :P
You shouldn't respect us more for 'holding our ground'. Why would you ever hold someone in a higher regard for disregarding the thoughts and views of others? I thought of this place every bit as much yours, as mine. Infact, I personally thought it more yours then mine. Thats why when I saw the situation I was overwhelmed and quite surprised. The MJ Forum was NEVER ment to become a forum. It was a discussion that went misunderstood and that is all. I was never trying to force any thing on SPF or have it move away from being the, 'black tie entheogen site'.
As soon as I saw that you wanted to leave LW, it fucking hurt. Your name tops the list of names I remember and give a great deal of repect to. I feel like I walked in your house with dirty boots, tracked mud all over your house and now you don't want to live in it anymore. Damn it! I'm trying to clean up the mud! :P
But if you must leave, that is your choice and I wish you the best of luck in your future. Be sure to come around and say hello at least. Oh, and if you need a chatroom for your site, let me know :wink:
I'm sure people would have held their ground LW,
I just wanted you to be happy. :roll:
little late for that now.
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Oh, and Stop bringing up the age thing like someone set it at 13, please. It was never 13. That was the COPPA form thing. If your under 13 you fill it out, over 13 you dont. If you look, since we have been setting up and still configuring the site, it has changed. The limit is 18 and always has been 18. I'm sorry we didn't configure every single aspect before putting up the site. Notice the gallery just got integrated yesterday? Yes, the site is still being setup and configured.
"But how many mambers have already registered under the old age requirement of 13?"
Doesn't matter, when the final draft of the registration agreement is in place a final email will be sent around to all users stating they are legally required to read it before proceeding to use spf.org anyone underage would at that point be violating the agreement. Almost all the members here now, are members from the previous site.
Also, I can just check the registered birthdates and delete all under 18.
Btw, the registration screen says:
"I Agree to these terms and am over or exactly 18 years of age
I Agree to these terms and am under 18 years of age
I do not agree to these terms"
Anyways though, the kids will just lie and say they are over 18.
Now I'm really sorry, nirto. Guess I jumped to conculsions. Again.
I really misjudged you, bro. Or more accurately, misjudged youe silence. We hadn't really talked in years and I was guessing you were sore for the shite I flipped you as a juvy. Then when reefer heaven showed up with you as mod I saw it as your chance at revenge.
I'm sorry for being an ass.
This would have been a lot easier if you had just stuck with your original thoughts on growing this community, imo. Then I wouldn't feel guilty about breaking off and setting up a little safe-haven for the few of us who share the same paranoic concerns. I'm not comfortable telling others what to do. Hell, I don't want to be a leader any more than i want to be led.
Heck, it sounds like there may be room in the attic for an old crumudgeon like me. But I'd rest a little easier knowing there was a little more old-school influence out front. Troutie and/or Avery come to mind. And it sounds like sistah judih has some interesting ideas floating around her head, although I was allowed just a little_peek. hehe
Anyway, I'd like to thank you folks once again for making this all possible.
lw
old school!
cool, ivy grows down my back and curls up in modest humility
i thought about a nice little password protected area for those moments when we want to unzip our jeans and check to see what's in our pockets, and we'd rather do it with the blinds closed.
whatcha think?
I say go for it judih.
lw, man, much love to you... Attics aren't so bad sometimes, if you can stand the mice and dust and all our cluttered crap!
There is a thread on Invite Forums in "The Site".
Please give any support of criticism of the idea there. (keep it organized :)
welll... ok, lw, you can come into the attic, but the uber attic loft is MINE, stay the fuck out! :lol:
seriously, only the embarrassingly deranged need apply, so take the warning! I rule the spider army!!!
Quote from: "dendro"only the embarrassingly deranged need apply
I'm embarrassingly deranged to others. Does that count? :shock:
*whew *
i'm so very glad you're not goin away LW ... the place would be the poorer for your absence
i have learned how easy it is for misunderstandings to arrise in this format and one shouldn't be too hard oneself (or others) coz usually a few calm words will fix things
i prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt ... and it sure seems to me that everyone involved here intends well, is aiming for the common good.
Yep, amen to that, all of that cassie.
I think eddy has given us a great opportunity. We have the chance, having found each other of the course of some years, to now build our world from the ground up. It could be seen as an experiment in human relations, a test for our psychedelicaly evolved psyches. Maybe anarchy vs tyranny vs democracy vs psychedelic socialism.
But friends, everyone who has been on a team, been in a band or a marraige will tell you that it takes work and time. Takes some mistakes and adjustments. It's a big thing to craft a situation that allows each to give his best, get what she needs and feels good about it. It's a real thing, you learn and grow.
So please, we all want the same stuff and have known each other long enough to know that we got people to turn to. No ne has to carry the load be themselves.
Oh yeah LW, you can run but you can't hide, bro. You stuck with us but we love you. hey, could you make me another copy of that Record Plant bob marley show. My cat peed on the old one.
I think I can make a copy of that one, jrl.
nitro: I'm not sure if you read my apology (to you) above. I'm guessing you did, but as you made no comment, that's still a guess. :roll:
lw
"I'm embarrassingly deranged to others. Does that count? "
tralfaz, that's ALL that counts. Stick around, an if you embarrass yourself amongst the group sufficient times to become an object of disgust and pity (I'll be watching you!), then apply within, and maybe you'll get a call back. The spider army would like to see some new...blood... 8)
Oops, sorry LW, didn't see it. Took me directly to the posts below.
QuoteNow I'm really sorry, nirto. Guess I jumped to conculsions. Again.
I really misjudged you, bro. Or more accurately, misjudged youe silence. We hadn't really talked in years and I was guessing you were sore for the shite I flipped you as a juvy. Then when reefer heaven showed up with you as mod I saw it as your chance at revenge.
You flipped me shite as a juvy? I don't even remember that. heh. Damn man, we have a major disconnect between us.
QuoteI'm sorry for being an ass.
This would have been a lot easier if you had just stuck with your original thoughts on growing this community, imo. Then I wouldn't feel guilty about breaking off and setting up a little safe-haven for the few of us who share the same paranoic concerns. I'm not comfortable telling others what to do. Hell, I don't want to be a leader any more than i want to be led.
Heh, its no problem. I have stuck with my thoughts on growing the community, but as I have tried to clarify in over 3 or 4 posts is, once again, it was never ment to be added as a forum. It was a discussion that was suppost to have ended in more discussion being created. I did not plan on the forum appearing so soon. So... My thoughts really have not changed.
QuoteHeck, it sounds like there may be room in the attic for an old crumudgeon like me. But I'd rest a little easier knowing there was a little more old-school influence out front. Troutie and/or Avery come to mind. And it sounds like sistah judih has some interesting ideas floating around her head, although I was allowed just a little_peek. hehe
Of course there is room LW. I'm just here as the same nitroburn from before, but now im being milked for my tech skills :lol: The creative forces behind this new creation is the old brains of the spf past.
But i'm glad you don't hate me now LW :)
Great post JRL. Maybe these substabces that some supposedly do
don't make people in to ultrasensative hooohaaa :?
In the long run everything will be fine- most of the time.
Quoteand I was guessing you(NITROBURN) were sore for the shite I flipped you as a juvy.
You mean he's no longer a juvy??? :?: :?:
He told me he just turned
13 :o :P :lol: :twisted:
Hehe...Warmheartedly, I hope someone get's my sense oh humor... :oops:
:lol:
...we need more emoticons :wink:
tral
Great post JRL. Maybe these substances that some supposedly do
don't make people in to ultrasensative hooohaaa :?
In the long run everything here will be fine- most of the time :wink: .
Quotesetting up a little safe-haven for the few of us who share the same paranoic concerns setting up a little safe-haven for the few of us who share the same paranoic concerns setting up a little safe-haven for the few of us who share the same paranoic concerns setting up a little safe-haven for the few of us who share the same paranoic concerns
That's what I have with my email account! When I think I have something to say, or when I feel like I could do something productive, I hit the
refresh[/] button over and over and over again- only to find that nobody has anything to say to me, and that some bank needs my social security number and my mother's maiden name :P :roll:
Quoteand I was guessing you(NITROBURN [/i])were sore for the shite I flipped you as a juvy.
You mean he's no longer a juvy??? :?: :?: :o
He told me he just turned
13 :o :P :lol: :twisted:
Hehe...Warmheartedly, I hope someone get's my sense oh humor... :oops:
:lol:
...we need more emoticons :wink:
tral
And actually buddy,you jus bein crazy. That`s cool.
Don`t blame you,it`s jus another approach ,since suppossedly sane people will repeatably run thier heads into brick walls.They say Ulysis Grant(Fed. army,civil war,and apparently not hs real name, jus what the army gave him,)...walked around with an expression on his face and with attitude, that that`s what he was going to do at that very moment, hey...,at any next moment.
Grant prolly settled instead for a hit of hard liquor instead,but he did not slow down...till later.
I do get your humour,but some good people are bouncing off the walls, trying to figure out the path. And truley, you really wanta see applied crazy,check out Finbar,though,you are not bad.,and I`m sure would be too cool enough to consider the concept of compitition
So what,so to speak.
You I think, can contribute , and Thas in bold letters. But you know, it`s been rough,and it`s going to take a little more than being benevolently crazy to break through the b.s ., We need to know what to to do.
Try to help.
Me, I jus do half life 2 on my new gaming box, ( a for real machine,saved up my money , I do not whatch tv.) then I come back to here. I v`ebecome more passive,without being medicated,and a lot of bad guys get it then I could ever do in real life....
Hey,Be cool and help us.
nitro: Hate you? No way, man. We just don't know each other very well.
cj: LOL You talking to me? You sound like fin's e-vile twin this morning. hehe
Break through the bullshite and try to help the community, eh? That might take a second morning smoke........
I really think this community should move progressively forward as previously intended, complete with trip reports and mj forum. I believe I made a selfish mistake the other day in attacking the site admin for their decision.
Throughout the years, there has been a vocal opposition to the sites unyeilding stance on the issue. It was a struggle at times.
The biggest headache for me was being left in charge of the site with vague instructions but without the full support of the absentee landlord. Eddy spent more time in chat than on spf. And he communicated more in that mode than on the forums, imo. That really bugged me. There are a lot of good intentioned peeps who frequent chat often and the forums once in awhile. Lets face it, without chat, this place prolly wouldn't exist.
The past few days have proven to me that there is a wide enoug range of views (and laws) to warrant a progressive move forward as well as a safe-haven for those more inclined. And this way, you folks can make plans for the site, while in chat, to your collective hearts' content without fear what the crazy ol' guy in tha attic is going to say. (Scream?)
At the same time, I know there will always be a few loners like me looking to hang their hats on a willow branch in a backwater camp, kicking it quiet-like while the river rolls on by. But I can only lead by example on this one.
lw
No,someone else,.....but your run of thought was worth it.
Guess i`ll have to check out this chat thing,.. but no hurry.
I`m stuck at a really hard place in half life 2,and the gunship is chewing me up everytime, before I can blow it the hell out of the sky.
Peace
"without fear what the crazy ol' guy in tha attic is going to say. (Scream?)"
no one has ever feared me...cept maybe LL (hey, is he here? What's his new nick?) :)
and I don't scream--but the silence is deafening.
at least I can count on the loyalty of the vast Spider Army :twisted:
Now there's a blast from the past; ll. I shore hope to run across him again. But I have a tough time believing he's been posting here under a different nick. We'd be on to him, I'm guessing. hehe
lw