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People => The Long House => Topic started by: Hedon on January 26, 2005, 05:18:07 PM

Title: Can I be removed from the member list?
Post by: Hedon on January 26, 2005, 05:18:07 PM
With all due respect to the powers that be who ever they are, I would like to ask that since this site is no longer dedicated to legal entheogens, can my name and all information about me be removed from the data files?

I really enjoyed my time spent with this site, but I guess it's true what they say, all things must come to an end.

Peace

Hedon
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Post by: PeterRabbit on January 26, 2005, 05:24:04 PM
I'm going to have to second that. Anybody know how to go about this?
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Post by: laughingwillow on January 26, 2005, 05:30:37 PM
Just leave, fellas. Easy as that.

Btw self-incrimination on spf has never been permitted. And, luckily, the u$ gubmint has never made the sharing of information to be illegal. As we are operating as always, I have a difficult time understanding your original comment, hedon, concerning the site no longer being dedicated solely to "legal" entheogens.  

So, hedon, who were you in the past spf incarnation, btw?

lw
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Post by: laughingwillow on January 26, 2005, 05:41:47 PM
Hey, guys. I just peeped the new forums and would like to apologize for my tone above. I'm guessing I'll maybe be steering clear of this place, too. Nothing to do but wait, see and then get the fuck dtr if this is the way its going down.

lw
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Post by: laughingwillow on January 26, 2005, 05:45:40 PM
And just now I see spf has added a trade forum. Anyone who makes entheogenic trades on a site allowing 13 year old children to participate has bigger balls than me.

lw
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Post by: dendro on January 26, 2005, 07:31:26 PM
13? Uh oh, too young for me... :?
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Post by: laughingwillow on January 26, 2005, 09:01:17 PM
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Post by: Avery L. Breath on January 26, 2005, 10:54:10 PM
pretty standard spiel........ except for the age thing.  I'm sure the old site worded things better, but it's takes time to start from scratch.  I bet if it's really objectional, a new one could be written up by the person who sticks their neck out the farthest...... and I'm sure, the deeper it gets, the more complicated it is.
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Post by: Cassie on January 26, 2005, 11:53:29 PM
lets not be too hasty (best ent voice)
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Post by: laughingwillow on January 27, 2005, 08:23:00 AM
Yeah, cassie.... That sounds pretty artificial from someone who helped throw this little plan together in chat.

lw
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Post by: Bushpig on January 27, 2005, 08:54:32 AM
THat is the standard PHPBB age thing, it can be changed im sure...I've done it on mine.  I shall let andy know.


So yes your concerns on that are founded with good spirit, something has to be done on that.



Booooosh
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Post by: laughingwillow on January 27, 2005, 09:04:35 AM
Hey, bush.

They could change the age limit and this place would still be a reefer forum with trades incouraged.

MJ isn't legal where I live.

lw
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Post by: nitroburn on January 27, 2005, 12:32:57 PM
even though recreational use of MJ isn't legal,
free speech and discussion of mj still is.

and how is 1 MJ Forum > 4 Entheogen forums and 11 discussion forums.

I wouldn't call that a 'reefer forum'
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Post by: senorsalvia on January 27, 2005, 01:15:46 PM
Seems like every time I take a break for a day or two, that I come back to find some chaos brewing...I wonder if its part and parcel of having a somewhat 'new' perspective...  At any rate, I do not have a particular axe to grind concerning the age or MJ issue....  I'd imagine this site will progress into a place alot like the 'ole homestead, SPF...  Seems a logical assumption as the place is populated by the ole crowd etc....Truly peeps, SPF was far and away my fave spot in cyberville...I can see both sides of the debate concerning MJ, incriminatory remarks, yadda yadda...Since each place in the electronic etherea takes on its own character, I assume this spot will surely do likewise...  Most of the folks around here have honed the 'tools' of legalistic dancing around, and are still quite capable of getting their points across without blatantly crossing the always arbitrary line...  This 'dissension among the ranks' really troubles me though...  To my mind, we have become somewhat of a 'family'...  let us be tactful and understanding of one another.............  senorsal
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Post by: nitroburn on January 27, 2005, 01:28:08 PM
I thought I already said it in this thread, but here it is again.

13 is NOT the age limit here

An age limit was never set. The thing you see about being 13 is a legal requirement that was added by phpBB. The FTC requires anyone below the age of 13 to get permission before giving out private information. It is also the legal requirement of the site to ask if the user is under 13.

"Websites that are collecting information from children under the age of thirteen are required to comply with Federal Trade Commission ( FTC ) Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA)." ( http://www.coppa.org/ (http://www.coppa.org/) )

Soon, it will be removed though once all the configuration and disclamer is worked out as the age for registration should be variable depending on jurisdiction. We dont want to be forced to only allow 21 under. do we?

Soo..

There is no Marijuana forum and there is no 13 year olds allowed! :)
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Post by: andy on January 27, 2005, 03:50:02 PM
Just to confirm, there is no longer any MJ forum. It was added for a brief period of time but after much, much discussion has since been removed. Problem solved.

Regarding the 13 year old age limit. As Nitro has mentioned it is the default setting of the software (phpBB) which was not changed as this place has only been online for a week or two. Since its been brought to my attention (understatement) it has now been changed to 18. Problem solved.

Things are still evolving and we can expect the odd hickup along the way as we get things sorted out so theres no point getting upset. If you see a problem just raise a post about it in a mature and sensible way and we can discuss it as a community before implementing a solution.

Peace..

Andy
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Post by: tralfaz on January 27, 2005, 04:08:32 PM
Oh, I'll put on some earl grey tea for all those who are outraged.

Do some of you really feel so strongly about an MJ forum?  Is it better to not disseminate information?  Most of what is discussed in forums like this one is questionable in the eye of the law.  As for trades, you are fully rersposible and in control of what and with whom you trade.  If you don't want to trade- DON'T.

Really, get a grip.  IMHO maybe you should reinstate the MJ forum and dismember those who prefer earl grey tea :lol:  :wink:
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Post by: VajraPirate on January 27, 2005, 05:07:15 PM
:(
I will keep my mouth shut on this matter, other than to say it's great to see we've got drama already. :(

edit: Thank You andy.
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Post by: Cassie on January 27, 2005, 05:31:50 PM
LW, why do you presume all these things go on inchat?
Its a great place for discussion but I agree that the forum is the main thing, and always have. If you had ever been in our chatroom you would have heard me constantly advise that it is the chat for www.spiritplants.com (http://www.spiritplants.com).
I always ask new people if they are members and i encourage chatters to post and C&P topics from the site to discuss.
In fact, it has been an effort to keep the chat 'spiritplants' related, as nitro will confirm but we have given it our best.
I never wanted haste in any of the matters concerning this new place, and i have said this repeatedly. I have am consequently taking offence from your comments about my having 'thrown this plan together'.
If i make a plan, i am painstakingly careful and never throw things together, its just not in my triple-virgo nature to do so.
All the time i am calling for discussion and consensus thru this forum.

Nitro says he feels like he's been moved to the back of the bus ... but but...
whenever i've needed a driver ... its always been nitro i've looked to;
he's the uber-geek .. the brains .. the MAN.. and i want him back as our admin.
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Post by: Bongo on February 06, 2005, 05:04:58 AM
Even if there was an erb forum, what the hell does it matter?
Talking about something illegal is not in the so called “free world” considered to be illegal, is it? Even in that Banana republic they call America?
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Post by: laughingwillow on February 06, 2005, 08:25:43 AM
Well, bongo, if you don'yt know the answer to that one by now, you prolly never will.

lw
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Post by: Bongo on February 06, 2005, 09:04:15 AM
LW...I know the answer to that one.
It was a rhetorical question.
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Post by: CJ on February 07, 2005, 01:50:52 PM
There is a difference,and a standard to uphold.

     I value difference of opinion,'but if 'one' individ. thinks it best I go if a Mj forum is instituted,I will go. I didn`t know before that the site more belonged to 'somebody' , for a position  they held.

     That for whatever reason,put them on some kind of higher ground.

     My attitude before was simply avoid the forum, unless that wasn`t good enough, for legal reasons.

     Dismembered.... Yeah,I think so.
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Post by: VajraPirate on February 07, 2005, 06:38:24 PM
Having some difficulty making sense of that last post cj.

I don't think anyone really wants anybody to leave. I know I don't.

If you could clarify...
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Post by: VajraPirate on February 07, 2005, 06:38:55 PM
Having some difficulty making sense of that last post cj.

I don't think anyone really wants anybody to leave. I know I don't.

If you could clarify...
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Post by: CJ on February 07, 2005, 07:30:10 PM
I`m sorry(in the figurative sense) for I`m jus contributing to the noise,but there was a allusion made about those who essentially don`t like the idea of a cirtain forum could very well 'dismember' themselves, go satisy themselves with some kind of tea,as if they had no value because of their stance on legality.

     I personally consider Marijuana to be at least a potential visionary substance,but there is so much damned bagage,and sites about it,I did not feel the need for another. Especially here.

      And like a kid,when somebody alluding that those who did not like it could 'dismember'oneself,I reacted to the line being drawn in the sand.At the age of 53,I can still be that way,instead of jus saying that`s wrong.

    I prolly will never change, and this stuff is mild anyway compared to my real life,...at times.

     Of course, there is a little bit more on my mind,and I should shut up now. Andy`s done his job,and let`s hope no more 'Easter eggs'drop out of Chat,as already stated and very well covered.

     I do apologize for my negativity,but not so sure about apologizing for my stance. Kind of doubt that anyone else is.
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Post by: VajraPirate on February 07, 2005, 08:36:24 PM
You should definately not apologize for your stance.

My original post concerning the MJ forum also pointed out the fact that there are many boards already devoted to it. I understand your concern and share it to some degree. I don't want to see the theme or vibe of our site to change either, but I have to admit I was a little excited when I saw that forum pop up. But I also didn't want to see the baggage that would have gone along with it. In the end I think the best decision was made.

Mostly I just wanted to know what the heck you were trying to say. Thanks for clearing that up, cj. :)

sorry bout that double post earlier. woops!